ARE YOU...(gay,straight, bi)

[deusex]

Just trying to get a demographic here for the two sites and the message board here. If you're a visitor, and you haven't figured it out, there are two connected sites here - www.usg-online.com and www.un-der-wear.com with this message board linking the two.

Most of you know that I'm gay and the sites have a gay leaning cuz I designed them, but I want to insure that the board is open to everyone. This poll is not meant to segregate, but just to inform.

[secondskin]

I am straight but love to show off for everyone! :)

[SNAPCASE]

I'm gay, 200%, and that's not in the way I act, but just ... I feel nothing for women ... sexualy,nothing. Always been gay as far as I can remember and always been comfortable with it too.

[The Bondsman]

Well now, I'm actually NOT gay but I'm DEFINITELY beginning to have my doubts about the bloke I'm having sex with! I'm pretty sure HE might be! ROFLOL!!!

Seriously? NORMAL here, ...ie "GAY".

Have been ever since I can remember, ...LONG before puberty.

Regards from THE BONDSMAN

[skinnyboy]

well I'm 100% gay and proud of it, havez always been gay since puberty, I just love being with a guy in sexy undies and having loads of fun:);) :blowme

[lycrathong]

I'm 100% gay and happy with that, but wouldn't mind if the guy I was fucking was straight

[rebel_heart]

i'm gay and i think i am getting more comfortable with that. :D

[The Bondsman]

but wouldn't mind if the guy I was fucking was straight

lycrathong, you are WICKED!!!
But wouldn't your fantasy "disappear" at the very moment you achieved it?
(Like ....go "POOF"!!!)

Regards from THE BONDSMAN

[briefs30]

I've always been gay but sometimes fantasise about being in a MFM 3 way or even a F/M+ gang bang. Does that make me bi or undecided??!! It'll probably never happen. I'm going to San Francisco for a couple of weeks early next year and heard that they have mixed, anything goes sex clubs. Anyone got any more info/experience of such places? I'd love to check out a place like that. I've done plenty of gay sex orgy type nights and would like to try something different.....

[superdoc]

OK, so I am straight, but I sure love my underwear collection--briefs, boxers, boxer briefs, jocks, etc. I love displaying my boxer waistband when I wear jeans--like the other day I went to a restaurant (Bob Evans) and sat there with my pullover shirt hiked up in back so that everyone could see my green striped boxers. I love to swim and shower in my white briefs, etc. It is fun to see what other guys are wearing for underwear--brands, colors, styles, etc. I like this site because it provides an avenue for all of us who love our underwear.

[fred13501]

je suis marie et bi mais peut etre que je suis plutot gay je ne sait plus vraiment

[superdoc]

"I am married but bi but it can be that I am more gay but I am not sure." My French is a bit rusty, but I think that this is what Fred is saying.

[Bikini650]

I'm str8 but the way I'm acting here looking at pics you would think I'm homosexual. I do enjoy Uws and see other guys in them after all whats to compare looking at a female in Uws or nude. Unless your a breast man. O yeah some female have a great camel toe to look at.

[teej]

I guess that you'd call me bi-curious. I'm in the middle of my fourth divorce and have pretty much decided that women aren't for me. They just don't get my fascination (fetish) with underwear. I have'nt ever had an experience with another man, but might be interested. Otherwise I just surf the underwear sites on the web and be content with that. I guess it's just more than a little scary.

[nutnuzzler]

Camel toe? Maybe I'm too "gay" to get that? :D

It actually is "gratifying" to me that there are str8 men willing to step up to the plate and say that, yeah, they do check out other guys and that being checked out doesn't phase them, and that they might even be a bit turned on by it. That seems more 'reasonable' than the typical macho attitudes projected so often by str8 men.

[The Bondsman]

Camel toe? Maybe I'm too "gay" to get that? :D

DON'T ask, ....don't go there either! You just DON'T want to know! :D :D :D

[Quantum]

I'm gay. Rather enjoy being gay too, can't imagine sex with a woman. *eww* lol

[Unregistered]

I'm str8. But I love looking at a guys bulge in white briefs, so maybe I'm Bi. Or, maybe I'm Gay, and don't know it because I have never had the opportunity to enjoy great sex with another guy. Now I'm really confused, I don't know what I am. I think I'll just look at some more of the hot pictures on this site, and jack off again.

[Onan]

I am completely gay but 2 of my friends are straight. One of them says he is very much interested in cocks. He wants to see them and is very impressed by really hung men.It is nice he is actually candid about what he feels for men and women. The other one is underwear freak (male and female underwear).
I may be gay,500%, but fuck women as well. No problem, although the tenderness lacks completely. With men I feel tenderness, even when I dominate them or they dominate me.

[SFOwl1977]

I am straight but love to show off for everyone! :)
I think that's awesome. I'm gay and love it that there are both straight and gay guys out there into underwear and stuff...

[superdoc]

Who cares about sexual persuasion? We all love our underwear and we love to talk about underwear. No descrimination here!

[Whities]

Agree with Superdoc.

I'm straight but enjoy my collection of y-fronts, briefs and the odd pair of boxer shorts, always wanted to wear a thong. I enjoy showing off my underwear for others to see and enjoy seeing other people's undies.

DR

[deadgoodundiesdotcom]

Straight as an arrow but went through that difficult teenage thing of finding some men attractive and getting very confused, didn't take me long after I lost my virginity to know which bus i was on.

[Unregistered]

I'm straight, but over the last couple of years my curiosity has grown. In fact, my thoughts and dreams are increasingly of men and women are a distant second. If the opportunity presents itself, I would jump at the chance to be with a man.

[Unregistered]

I'm straight as well, but must admit, I enjoy looking at men. Don't care for gay porn, but seeing a man in (or out of) his underwear is definitely a turn on. I only "discovered" this site today and will probably end up registering.

[Unregistered]

GAY !!. Yep I like to look at men in underwear, i like the see thru ones where you can see his hard dick and and so soft balls. that way i can play with them in my mind, before i can play with my hands.

[svstrwbjock]

I will codsider myself gay.My male lifemate and I have been together for 40yrs.To late to change now.Great pics and postings on all the USG foroms.

[The Bondsman]

My male lifemate and I have been together for 40yrs.To late to change now.
Yep svstrwbjock, I do think if you two have been together for FORTY years that you might quite safely deduce that you are probably gay! ;)
Congratulations BTW! A great achievement for you both!

[mikey73]

This is my first post here. I would have to say I'm Bi eventhough I don't like labels. I was Straight untill my late tweenties when I started becoming very curious about sex with men. before that I only ever jacked off with a buddy when I was a teen (he turned out to be gay BTW) and only had sex with women and truely enjoyed it. after being curious for a while I took the chance last spring and met a cool gay guy that was willing to be with a firsttimer. I have not turned back since and have only been with guys since but think I would still have sex with women if I got the chance with a hot chick. I find it much easier to grt some with men and they know what to do more than some women.

[nutnuzzler]

What is sort of intriguing about this poll to me, if you believe the results so far, is that I always figured a fascination with men's underwear IN men meant "gay". But the number of guys who are interested in women (counting the bi guys) AND in men's underwear outnumber the guys who identify themselves as strictly gay.

[JustJoey]

I'm 150% gay, and I love it. I can't imagine being any other way. This is too much fun! haha

And *snaps* to the straight guys here who like to show of to us as well! There should be more of you!

[coldshower]

I would definitely consider myself straight, however the site of a guy with or without his underwear on is a turn on. I do enjoy looking and if the right opportunity presented itself, I might let another guy perform a little oral on me, but that would be all.

[Nakedsurfer]

I am straight but I like to look at men and women in all sorts of thongs. It really turns me on. I do however admit to fantasies of men and what it would be like. I am open but I do love women!

[billyjoe]

I guess I'm cosidered bi as I enjoy being with both men and women. At the same time I seem to enjoy looking at pics of guys in there sexy underwear more than I do looking at women in there panties.

[The Bondsman]

Billyjoe, now you have really confused me, ...and I'm not talking about your sexual identity. It's what you're wearing.
I not sure it would be classified as "underwear" per se, ...but it sure as hell is an interesting take on "dick-decoration".
I'd like a closer look, but for some reason your pics, unlike your dick, won't enlarge!
Anyone else find this, or is it just another permutation of this computer of mine?

[texasstud]

Hey,

I'm new here and gay! :)

[undyguy420]

I'm a " tri-sexual" I"ll try anything once.





And I'm deffinetly not gay...ask my BF..he will verify that. :D




Seriously....I have no clue what I " am"...all i know is I enjoy sex, I really enjoy underwear, talking about it, looking at em, wearing what I consider sexy stuff and looking at pics of other guys wearing sexy stuff.



I was married, have 2 kids...my wife did not share my passion for underwear, she hardly ever wore pantys or sexy lingerie for "me" and that strained our relationship because panties and underwear ( and sex therewith) is something I was exposed to at an early age and became my sexually formative "trigger".


When I was growing up, I didnt know about homophobia or even being " gay" for that matter as there was nothing to compare it to. I ( at time) thought it was normal and " just the way it is"

Of course I also grew up during the famous hippy era..lol...nothing was sacred and it was all about fun....lol


To this day, I cannot enjoy or rather do not enjoy as much, sex, unless there is undies somewhere in the mix....I guess one could say I'm ruined ( is that a bad thing? lol)

Even with internet porn and stuff..I prefer non-nude sites over the graphic nude and hardcore sex sites which leave nothing to the imagination to me.


Al I know is I wish the internet was around way back then because I realized that I am not alone in some of my feelings and because of my naivity, missed out on some good times.

I have a lot of other kinks, fetishes and radical enjoyments, but I will save those for discussion as it comes up here.


( thanks for having this forum as it is a hell of a lot cheaper than going to therapy,, which, btw I did at my ex wifes request/demand and I lied to my therapist...) lol

[murrayjock]

:blowme Gay here proud and lover of jockstraps and underwear.

[rignon]

What is sort of intriguing about this poll to me, if you believe the results so far, is that I always figured a fascination with men's underwear IN men meant "gay". But the number of guys who are interested in women (counting the bi guys) AND in men's underwear outnumber the guys who identify themselves as strictly gay.

I'm also straight, but I must admit that I enjoy looking at well built men in underwear, swim trunks etc. I have never been able to tell anyone this, so I am pleased to have discovered this site. Just because you can appreciate something doesn't mean you want to take it to bed.

[devin]

Straight but love this site and the pics. :cool:

[deusex]

nice to see you posting Devin! Missed you!

[BUCK]

I am gay and very proud of it.
I love this site much and all the hot guys on it.
:blowme :) :D :hump ;)

[Newbie2it]

Totally gay, Been for years, Love the site, love seeing all the hot guys here in and out or in between on their undies. I like guys more then gurls. i tried one once and it did nothing for me. Sorta like dried tomatoes <yech> But for the guys here who proudly post, I am glad to see people who arent afraid to admit when they see something beautiful . ;)

[prusso171]

Straight?? Been there.. done that..didn't like it..NOT GOING BACK!
Definitley going Gayily foward ;) I can't even think straight :)

[dense_packaging]

I would have to be considered bi-curious. I've had sex with several women, even a FFM 3-way. Its funny because the FFM 3-way is the stereotypical male fantasy that most straight men will go their whole life attemtping to have but it wasn't MY fantasy. The two women seduced me, not the other way around. I guess you could say I just stumbled into it. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy it because I did :cool: But for some reason a MMF 3-way intrigues me much more than a FFM.

As for the bi-curious, I have never had a sexual experience with a male. It's only a matter of time though, I just haven't met the right guy yet (for a variety of reasons, including geography). I'm really attracted to voluptuous females. I like huge tits, a big round ass, and those sexy woman legs. But on the other hand I get turned on by the overly muscular male physique with tall broad shoulders, big pecs and biceps, and meaty verile thighs. Not the gorilla-huge roided up pro bodybuilder type, but more like a natural to mildly inflated type. I'm not saying I don't find other body types attractive, I just really get turned on the most by those.

Then there's the underwear/swimwear fetish. I love to wear bikinis and thongs and I love to look at guys in bikinis and thongs but I also get turned on by women in underwear and swimwear. I don't like the expensive lingerae and the 8 inch heels or nylon stockings and corsettes. I love having a woman with ample ass cleavage lounging around the house in nothing but a t-shirt and a thong. So while I can't speak from personal experience, I'd definately be open to having a guy do the same.

I just think its weird/neat that my fetishes and obsessions are not bound by sex or gender. Either that, or I'll just hump anything :D

[The Bondsman]

my wife did not share my passion for underwear, she hardly ever wore pantys or sexy lingerie for "me" and that strained our relationship because panties and underwear ( and sex therewith) is something I was exposed to at an early age and became my sexually formative "trigger".
Now undyguy420, because I am a curious SOB, I just have to probe on some aspects of your most interesting post, ....like the above bit. How did exposure to underwear, (male or female?), become your "trigger"?
To this day, I cannot enjoy or rather do not enjoy as much, sex, unless there is undies somewhere in the mix....I guess one could say I'm ruined ( is that a bad thing? lol)
Ruined? ....I'd call it "refined".
Sure I suppose I can do sex without the underwear component, and even "enjoy" it, ...but for brief-bustin', jock-straining mind-blowing multiple ball-draining orgasms, there definitely needs to be underwear in the mix!
Even with internet porn and stuff..I prefer non-nude sites over the graphic nude and hardcore sex sites which leave nothing to the imagination to me.
Delighted to hear that someone else is like this too. Even in the gay porn DVDs, I tend to lose interest when they lose the undies, ....providing they are actually wearing them in the first place! (Can't tell you how many times I've been disappointed!)
I will rewind and play again those underwear sequences, rather than the later ones in the nude. I thought it was my years on Life-Drawing classes that had over-exposed (bad pun, I know), and desensitised me to complete nudity. I think I would really rather see a very hot man in his underwear than see him totally nude. Perhaps I just like a bit of mystery, ...something to discover later, .....but I really think it's far more erotically charged for me if he's wearing his briefs, ....white ones of course :cool: !
I have a lot of other kinks, fetishes and radical enjoyments, but I will save those for discussion as it comes up here.

Hey, you've wet MY curiosity, and this is the cheapest therapy you can find, so do tell all!

[SeaSkot]

Out and Proud .... 1st B2B action was in grade school .....

[nightchild]

I'm bi and I really appreciate everyone in here because nobody seems to have any hangups over "what" someone is. We all just enjoy the human body!

[Newbie2it]

I'm bi and I really appreciate everyone in here because nobody seems to have any hangups over "what" someone is. We all just enjoy the human body!


I thought thats exactly how people are supposed to be. To each their own and everyone gets along well. *Sigh* what a great world it would be if only others thought like us :)

[jaap_nl]

I am gay, am sleeping nude or in loose boxers. Don't like the pressure on my dick at night. When I go to the beach it is a gay beach and, of course, I wear nothing. When going to a swimming pool I wear by preference a next-to-nothing speedo. If I have the impression that the mood there is permissive I wear a worn-out see-through thong.

[curiousjnf]

I am bi. i have had a ffm and a mmf but not a m2m. i didn't get enough of what i wanted and am now looking for a m2m first time. what i've done i liked though. and men look so hot with a good trim and shave with some skimpy underwear to show off that smooth sexy dick.

[thongs4guys]

Can't help showing off the undies, and checking out what other guys like to wear.

[tom]

Straight, but have always loved undies and... wanking.. whoops!!

[gaz]

Gay men have more fun.........maybe that's why I am so happy! :rolleyes:

[SAinNL]

I am gay, am sleeping nude or in loose boxers. Don't like the pressure on my dick at night. When I go to the beach it is a gay beach and, of course, I wear nothing. When going to a swimming pool I wear by preference a next-to-nothing speedo. If I have the impression that the mood there is permissive I wear a worn-out see-through thong.
hey jaap > great to see another undie enthusiast from NL ( rijswijk - zh) here > btw just a question - i ( in general) find the taste of dutchmens underwear rather boring ( ppfftt-HEMA slips etc - am i wrong in this opinion /conclusion??

[SAinNL]

Straight, but have always loved undies and... wanking.. whoops!!
interesting ( to me ) to note that there are straight men out there having the same interest(fetish) BUT a Q - speaking as a gay man underwear to me has a somewhat erotic stimuli - MY ( -PLS note my) opinion /. conclusion was always that straight men would be somewhat more enthused by female underwear ( Re: sexual/erotic stimuli) .. on observation i have noted that straight friends etc dont pay that much attention to what covers the nether regions ...
as for wanking i think even a-sexuals do that? *grin*

[The Bondsman]

interesting ( to me ) to note that there are straight men out there having the same interest(fetish) BUT a Q - speaking as a gay man underwear to me has a somewhat erotic stimuli - MY ( -PLS note my) opinion /. conclusion was always that straight men would be somewhat more enthused by female underwear
SAinNL, without any offence to our str8 friends here, I was utterly amazed to learn that there are str8 guys who are lovers of male underwear too.
I had always assumed that all that lacy lingerie was what popped their corks, ...(does bugger all for me), ......but actually I was delighted to learn that our fetish is shared but some str8 guys too.
Kinda gives us some common ground, don't you think?
Have a str8 mate who will often drop his pants to show me "something I might be interested in", ...as he so delightfully puts it without even a hint of double-entendre.
He knows I love underwear, and if he's wearing something new or unusual, he seems to want to show me, ...and who am I to refuse such an offer as he likes white briefs, although he's a bit too fond of expensive brand names for my own taste, but he fills 'em out oh-so-nicely, and sometimes even encourages me by grabbing my hand and placing it on his briefs to "feel how nice they are"!
And no, ...I don't actually think he's coming on to me, ...he's just truly a most friendly and wonderful st8 guy friend.....although we did sit down together to watch each others favourite porn-tapes once at his request to see just what turned each other on. (We wore only our briefs at MY request, as part of agreeing to the deal! I'm NOT stupid! :cool: )
Have to say that I thought he got harder watching my tape that I did watching his. :eek: Good grief, do str8s REALLY do that???
I COULD have just watched him getting hard in his briefs to better effect!
( The answer to all those excessively curious guys amongst you who want to know what we did while watching the tapes is YES, we did, but nothing mutual!) :cool: ;)

[tom]

Well in reply as a srt8 man... frilly girls undies have never done anything for me... and the thought of some painted creature in fishnet tights and black boots is the ultimate turn off! However, seeing a brief line on some nice girls ass in tight trousers is a far more uplifting experience - you don't get that with thongs;)

As for mens undies... I don't know what it is that turns me on but something does that's for sure! And it has since I was kid - now, having once been a kid with that sort of interest interest when self abuse loomed large I guess I just connected the two ergo, briefs+wank=pleasure and they have never seperated :bath:

I think, the voyeur thing of who wears what came from school changing rooms, but wherever it came from it's here to stay and I still enjoy guessing even after all this time.

The undies thing is my secret which I have shared with you here.. but not my wife :eek: It took some courage to admit it here, but now I don't give a toss...in fact, with my pics I think have entered into the spirit of it quite well!!!

It's a bit like having it live in a seperate part of my head.. I doubt if I could explain it without unknowingly getting into heavy stuff! Am I latent bi?? I don't know...Froid who am he ?

What the hell, enjoy your undies.. and those of others, I do :)
tom

[The Bondsman]

The undies thing is my secret which I have shared with you here.. but not my wife :eek: It took some courage to admit it here, but now I don't give a toss...in fact, with my pics I think have entered into the spirit of it quite well!!!
And so you have indeed tom!
I myself found forums like this on the internet encouraged me to "come-out" as a complete underwear fan. Of course it's a few years ago now, ...but before it was something I hid, a bit ashamed of it really, ...because I didn't know there were SO many others out there who felt exactly the same way about briefs as I did!
Hard to believe now I know, but now I'm "out" to just about everybody, ...and can only say things have gotten SO much better.
Cheaper than therapy, ......and OH SO MUCH more enjoyable too.
Keep up the good work tom, .......love having str8 guys share the fun!
Pity your wife doesn't indulge your fantasy, .......but if your ever desperate for a mutual brief-experience, .....I'm perfectly willing to help you out...! ;)

[tom]

.....but if your ever desperate for a mutual brief-experience, .....I'm perfectly willing to help you out...! ;)

Oh, dwarling we must stop meeting like this... ;) who knows, if ever I make the long trip I might look you up :eek: in the meantime I'll keep cumming out :moon:

[rignon]

interesting ( to me ) to note that there are straight men out there having the same interest(fetish) BUT a Q - speaking as a gay man underwear to me has a somewhat erotic stimuli - MY ( -PLS note my) opinion /. conclusion was always that straight men would be somewhat more enthused by female underwear ( Re: sexual/erotic stimuli) .. on observation i have noted that straight friends etc dont pay that much attention to what covers the nether regions ...
as for wanking i think even a-sexuals do that? *grin*

As a straight man, I probably don't need to say that a woman could arouse me whether she wears lacy panties or a burlap sack. Like your straight friends, I do not pay much attention to what I wear, as long as it is comfortable. While I can appreciate a good looking guy in sexy underwear and even get quite turned on, it's not nearly as frequent or as strong as it is with women. One reason I like this site and this thread is that I don't quite feel like such an oddity.

[BONNIE2006]

i dont think it really matters ive been gay all my life and dont know any thing else but if your into underwear this is the place to be

[thinstrap]

I guess I'm a bit of a minority here, but I'm straight. I really just can't resist the comfort, feel, looks and feelings I get from tight, sexy erotic mens 'under-fashions'. This is for me probably what a chick feels like looking at a fashion magazine. The photos and styles and conversation about undergear inform me and frankly turn me on. I may be one of the few members who actually preferrs the 'G' rated pics rather than the 'X's, but I do check them out from time to time, and quite frankly I may get enough guts to provide a pic for that section one day.
Overall it's a pretty classy site - good members. Thx. :cool:

[vers29male]

I am bi, always have been, there are things that turn me on from both men and women. afterall the human body is a work of art.

[sportjock]

i am 100 per cent gay and proud of it.

[The Ejaculator]

Happily married and happily bisexual, I'm pleased to say.
I enjoy the days and nights when I'm with her, but also an evening or two each week when she goes out to play in her swimsuit with her girly friends, and I get to have a couple of Speedo wearing male mates round for a different kind of fun.
We've been totally open about it since we first met and the sex when we get back together is even better because of what we've been enjoying with others. I keep my trunks on for her, probably still wet from what I've been up to with the lads, and she keeps her one-piece on. also quite damp from her earlier activities.
Sex in swimwear that you've been using with others is quite fantastic in my experience.

[gardardottir]

I voted undecided. :confused:
I liked the term "tri-sexual"! I really don't know, but I think I'm perhaps heterophile, but bisexual? By this I mean that I find men sexy, and want to have sex with men. However, I have not yet in my life fallen in love with a man, only women, and I will perhaps end up living with a woman (even though my prior experiences with living with women should make me wanting to live with a man instead). And the possibility exists that I will fall in love with a man tomorrow... ;)
And since I haven't yet considered one-night-stands, I have so far only had sex with women. :(

[rignon]

I voted undecided. :confused:
I liked the term "tri-sexual"! I really don't know, but I think I'm perhaps heterophile, but bisexual? By this I mean that I find men sexy, and want to have sex with men. However, I have not yet in my life fallen in love with a man, only women, and I will perhaps end up living with a woman (even though my prior experiences with living with women should make me wanting to live with a man instead). And the possibility exists that I will fall in love with a man tomorrow... ;)
And since I haven't yet considered one-night-stands, I have so far only had sex with women. :(

I'm pretty much in the same boat. I'm not willing to do the one night stand or annonymous stuff that goes on. However, if I do meet a man that I truly fall for, you bet I'll be all over him. :D So far I have only dated and had sex with women, but have never fallen in love with one of them either.

[slythering]

je suis marie et bi mais peut etre que je suis plutot gay je ne sait plus vraiment

I agree. In the same boat but love looking at guys in underwear and fantasize about them in the shower, swimming pool....

[klantto]

I'm straight as well, and really like all things tight and shiny: spandex, latex, pvc, leather etc. I have had interest in swim wear and underwear as long as I can remember.

[t4gs]

I'm str8 and like the feeling of wearing revealing thongs and showing off in them as much as possible in public.

[andre2700]

i'm bi. i don't know many girls that are interested in my underwear, and i wear what i want to. i like jockstraps because i dont have to take the off when i'm getting it on with a guy. i also think thongs are hot

[hangright]

DON'T ask, ....don't go there either! You just DON'T want to know! :D :D :D

I AM GOING TO TELL...its the females flower,pussy,minge,growler,...a camels toe is that shape...a woman whos trousers are way too tight....look at the outline....camels have two fat toes and a gap inbetween...BONDSMAN is being sick now.....i am going to pay dearly for this.:blowme:blowme:D:D

[hangright]

I am gay,but i do find some women attractive,even to the point of thinking what would they be like in bed,does this mean i am bi.
I work and socialize with straight men and women,this has never been a problem to me or them(they know i am gay or whatever).
It does get confusing when one or the other comes on stronger than they intended(or did they intend it),i dont quite know how to react to situations like this.
I look at straight men,admire their package,and smile at them,they all acknowledge me and smile or do the same to me,so what is going on?
A straight man(or straight acting man)will turn me on but i cannot cope with camp...it makes me wont to throw up.
Most of the straight men on here do it for me,look at ..Deadgoodundiesdotcom..he is absolutly gorgeous,i find him such a turn on,i know i will never be with him,so is it like a crush or is it the safety of known ...we can never get it on.
IF ANY OF YOU GUYS CAN HELP OUT ON THIS,I WOULD BE EXTREMLY GRATEFUL......thank you.

[BONNIE2006]

one thing you have put in your comments that i dont understand.
what is the diffrance between a camp gay man and a straight acting gay man if you are thinking about females in a sexual way is a camp man not just acting like a female would.

as for your question have you ever thought of going to bed with a woman if you intend to then yes you would be bi as bi means you sleep with both sexes

persoanlly i think bi guys and girls are just greedy and wanting the best of both worlds.but hay im just a simple gay guy.

[INTRIGADO]

i am gay, i am not on women, not even a little

[pnhmrk]

I think that the labels Gay, Bi and Straight are only there as a form of shorthand that we use to say what kind of mate we want. I believe that human sexuality ranges from totally gay to totally straight with most people falling somewhere in-between. The only reason that so many people (men in particular) say that they want nothing to do with a same sex relationship is that they've been brought up to believe that they don't want a same sex relationship.

[sootyscott]

Gay here - but will make jocks for anyone!
XXX

[hangright]

one thing you have put in your comments that i dont understand.
what is the diffrance between a camp gay man and a straight acting gay man if you are thinking about females in a sexual way is a camp man not just acting like a female would.

persoanlly i think bi guys and girls are just greedy and wanting the best of both worlds.but hay im just a simple gay guy.

A camp man tends to be OTT(over the top)alot of gestures with floppy hand and wrist movements:eek::eek:,dressed like a pratt:eek::eek:,overly loud,:mad:wants to be centre of atention:eek:,too clingy:eek:,too much all round,makes everyone else want to kick F*** out of him.:mad:
And since you did not know,you must be camp.
Look up rexrex,he claims to be a real straight man,but dresses like a camp queen,barbie pink panties.:eek::eek::eek:
I would sooner be celibate than go with a camp man.:D

and you spell difference this way!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[BONNIE2006]

many thanks for spelling lesson. as i have not been with any camp guys just normal gay guys i didnt know as for floopy hands i will look out for that.cus the guys i normally go with are more in charge (lol trying not to use words i can not spell):D

[deusex]

Guys, please be nice - there's nothing wrong with camp guys or guys who like to wear things you don't consider masculine. It may not be your thing, but we're a diverse community and we have to respect one another.

I know I don't allow women's underwear on this site, but I still respect the guys who are into it.

There are lots of "real" men (as in straight guys) who drive tractors and work hard labour jobs by day and like to get dressed up in women's gear once in a while. Don't think that is any indication of what a "real" man is or isn't.

Just be nice - we all have a fetish some people may not understand, many of us are gay and have had to face ridicule in our day to day lives, at least keep this site free of that sort of bullshit.

[The Bondsman]

I think that the labels Gay, Bi and Straight are only there as a form of shorthand that we use to say what kind of mate we want..
I have written this before but I think it's worth repeating. I do not understand the abhorrence of "labels". They make life so much easier. If I say I'm "gay", sure it's a label, but it saves a hell of a lot of time explaining in prissy PC euphemisms.
I know I have been accused of called a spade "a f--king shovel", but I'm all for direct communication of ideas.
Yes there are differing "styles" (NOT degrees!), of gayness as there should be, ...from the OTT effeminate to the most masculine of "real" men, (hate that term!). Str8s exhibit this exact same diversity, but they are all still str8, ...no one tries to make up sub-sections for them!
But to put it plainly, as I'm going to, if you desire to suck other men's cocks, or have them do it to you, then you are "gay", whether you actually ever do it or not.
Gayness is NOT measured by the amount of sex you have! Even if you were to remain celibate you are still ...GAY!
And just what's the big deal about that very accurate and useful label?
I will stand for just about anything except self-delusion and prissy avoidance of the point. The problem comes when we try to temper, or avoid the term "gay" by using so many other subsections and sub-categories, euphemisms or just plain fool-yourself terms of denial.
No doubt the word "gay" has had much bad press in some feller's past but if it's what you are, it's what you are.
My pet hate here in OZ is a self-delusional up-tight bunch of holier-than-thou freaks who call themselves "men who have sex with men", ...but totally deny they are gay in any way!
What, I hear you say?
These blokes are deeper in that well-known Egyptian River than bloody Cleopatra herself!
And I know a few "bisexuals" who I'm game to bet that the only time they have ever been near a real vagina was when they come down the birth canal on day one, ...and yet still call themselves "bisexual", ....even if they spend most, if not ALL of their sexual lives with a very firm penis up their own or some other man's rectum! They use the term "bisexual" purely because they see it as not being so low on their scale as "gay".:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: and again, :mad:!!!!
They delude themselves that they might, (only might!), one day in the far dim distant future, have sex with a women. Yeah, right! When women grow dicks it may even happen!
As SweatyAussie has said, .....calling a cow a horse doesn't suddenly get you a Grand National winner!

[BONNIE2006]

i am very sorry deusex but i was not trying to offend anyone with my reply to the question that was posted but gay is gay and like everything else has diffrant levles i was just trying to find out what the camp guys bit was about as i was not sure what was ment by it.

and again ty bondsman for your input it yet again makes very intersting reading.and again i love the way you write and what you write:D:D:D

[pnhmrk]

I do not understand the abhorrence of "labels"

I don't see why you think I am exhorting an abhorrence of labels. We use labels every day, all day. No matter if we are changing channels on the TV or buying food we use labels. Why should the labels we use for our sexuality be considered as any different?

I think we are actually saying very similar things except

But to put it plainly, as I'm going to, if you desire to suck other men's cocks, or have them do it to you, then you are "gay", whether you actually ever do it or not.

Your labelling system does not allow for the possibility that someone may fancy both sucking a cock and licking the "female area". Someone does not need to be doing both things at the same time in order to have a liking of both things.

[hangright]

Sorry for the last entry i made,but bonnie2006 did ask and say a camp man is the same as a woman.
And in his profile,his sexual orientation is straight but in a visitor message to me,well,we would make the perfect couple.
Sometimes we have a difference of opinion,but it can be resolved simply.

[The Bondsman]

Your labelling system does not allow for the possibility that someone may fancy both sucking a cock and licking the "female area". Someone does not need to be doing both things at the same time in order to have a liking of both things.
Oh pnhmrk, I do SO hate people who simply cannot make up their damned mind!:rolleyes::D :D
but gay is gay and like everything else has diffrant levles
Thanks Bonnie for your complimants, but I would have to disagree this time about your claim that there are different levels of being "gay".
What you may mean is there are differing levels of how it may be expressed, but gay is gay, ...which indeed, you do say! There I certainly agree with you. Str8s have differing ways of expression, but funnily enough it's rarely remarked on. They are all just .....straight!
And may I add there are "GAY" men who actually go through their entire life only having sex with women, .......that does NOT make them str8, ever!

I know that it will be usual here for someone to bring up the old chestnut of Kinsey's assertion that sexuality is like a line with gay on one end and str8 on the other and everyone fits somewhere along it ...blah, blah etc.
Kinsey did a lot of work in liberating ideas from repression, and the above theory probably enjoyed such popularity because it re-assured so many blokes who didn't want to be labelled "gay"; a very BAD term way back in the society then, it was still labelled a DISEASE!:eek::mad:
They could opt out by claiming they were somewhere further along the line towards str8 etc. More self delusion, even by Mr. Kinsey!
Kinsey was something of what I like to call a "Pre-Conceptual Scientist".
He came up with his hypothesis FIRST, and then proceeded to discredit any research or arguments that proved his original idea wrong!
However later more modern research has proved much of what he said to be erroneous, and this I believe is one such case.
WE are NOT talking here of those unfortunates who truly believe they are a women "trapped in a man's body". Their desires for men are indeed heterosexual.
I am quite prepared to believe that had the concept of being "gay" NOT had such VERY bad press and derogatory shit put on it by church and society, FAR more men would now be quite happy to identify simply as "gay" without the need for modifying escapism such as Kinsey's famous "line".
It simply provides a means by which the self-delusional are able to NOT categorise themselves as what was perceived as the lowest and most undesirable group, ...."gay", and elevate their self-concept a step higher towards the most desirable and socially acceptable echelon of "straight".
This annoys me for oh-so-many-reasons.:mad:
Sorry for another long post, but this is a FAR simpler topic than it has been made by so-called "sexual-researchers" in the past.
I hope what I have written strikes a chord in some readers here.:)

[BONNIE2006]

i am so soory i must go and change profile as straight is one thing i am not and will never be as i am happy being gay it must have been a error on my behalf:D

[BONNIE2006]

bondsman where i come from.whenever i go out in clubs people are always in levels its a fact you have the butch ones with there sleveless tops at one end of the club then you have the femine ones at another set of tables and some times thay do mix but most of the time thay dont ide like to go be part of the butch boys group.but you are made to feel like you u need to wait for an invite.

yes if you are gay you are gay if you are straight you are staraight ect ect
but within those sectors there are (i will call them devides for the want of a better word ).this is one of the resons i stopped going out on the gay scene i am only speaking of what i see for myself.
so many times i have gone out and wanted to go speak with a diffrant group of people in the club.but am told u wont fit in with them then u get a becouse.

i wish everyone would just mix togeather and have a good time but dose not seam to work that way maybe its changed now but i am not going to apoligse for what i see happerning to the gay scene where i live.

persoally what ever happened to having a frendship and letting it devlope as time gose on.

(sorry for spelling am dislexck)

[hangright]

Every gay bar i have been in,there is different areas for each type of gay,the butch,the straight acting,the camp,the fem,drag queens,tvs.
No one mixes much,no one talks much,everyone looks but thats it,if you chat with someone they think they are going to get laid.
This is true if you are visiting somewhere,all the locals are trying to get you first and they all (most of them)talk about you after to each other,this seems to be everywhere.
Even where i stay,there is no gay scene but the gay men and straights men and married guys who are playing around think you should too,and i am considered strange as i dont shag around.
I am one of the few who want a soulmate and just him,have not found him yet,or have i(bonnie2006).

[BONNIE2006]

many thanks hangright i was begining to think i was alone in my views and we do seam to share some of the same quailtys and yes i to would love to have a soulmate and have wanted this for many years someone who wants to be with me not the gay scene.and yes i feel a conection between us witch is rare for me as normally i am suspious about what a man wants from me.i also feel that i dont need to hide behind any false image on this site.

i joined this site in 1996 a shy gay guy now i openly talk and leave commets

so many thanks u-s-g and many thanks bondsman you have helped to open up my views and not be shy with my comments even if we dont agree all the time laugh

(hangright i have changed profile now):)

[The Bondsman]

Fellers, fellers, ......you are making a big mistake here because you only know the "gay" scene.
You think the str8s don't have their sub-tribal groups too?
In any str8 bar you'll see the beautiful/kool people clustered and the outsiders who are afraid to try to enter that group. Just the same thing as you are both talking about in the gay scene.
I know we would all like to be "inclusive", ....but humans like to place themselves on a level above others to fit into cliques that make them feel special, ...and if you happen to be perceived as "beautiful" then you can look down at others not so fortunate.
THAT's a human thing, ....NOT exclusively a "gay" thing at all.
The most "flame-ing" wrist flapping gay man, ...AND those oh-so-macho Marys all share the very same thing, ...they are "GAY"! Full stop!
They all do the same things in bed, .....the rest is just a surface mask.
Warning here: If anyone dares to mention the "straight acting" thing I WILL become more than a little angry. I hate this bull-shit! Straight blokes do NOT suck cock, by definition!
Not only is it self-loathing, it's another put down on fellow gays who express their sexuality simply in a differing manner. Besides, all those straight-acting poseurs were running for their lives and hiding in fear while the "femmes" were standing up to the cops back at Stonewall! We all have those brave GAY men to thank for a lot.
The faux straight-acting fakes would not stand up and be counted when the time came, preferring to leave it to the drag-queens to slug it out.
Now THERE's an example of just how "real" the macho facade is....
Yes the gay scene can be "bitchy", .....so is the str8 scene! These are HUMAN traits, and not sexuality specific.
I am glad that you feel you don't have to hide here BONNIE.
DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED! You have value, ...just as much as some posy-poof in a bar trying desperately to stop his own wrists from flapping and keeping his voice down low, and making sure he's got the butch walk down pat! We've all seen them....
Look, I know I am a confident person, .....and I think that is a great advantage to be. I try to get other gay men to be more confident too, ....together we are fighting centuries of being told by our own society that we are all diseased, mentally ill, immoral, filthy, depraved, sinners and outcasts. This does sink in, specially in smaller communities. You truly have to develop a love of yourself, ...and I'm not talking arrogance here.
It's bad enough having to deflect the homophobia still coming from outside, we certainly do NOT need internalised homophobia coming from our other fellow gay men, who are exactly like us but for their adopted "straight-jackets"!
They are NOT better, more moral, smarter or even a more desirable gay because they affect a fake external straight persona. I have little time for this snotty-nosed putdown, specially from those oh-so-image-conscious gay men who I know do exactly the same things as those they denigrate as being "too effeminate". Most of 'em still go to "saunas" and do it silently in the dark or through a glory hole anyway, .....not knowing or apparently caring whether their anonymous partner for five minutes is a screamer or a macho. True?
I know "be yourself" has become a cliche, .....but trying to maintain a cloak of something you are not only makes you more unhappy.

[riempie]

I am straight, but I enjoy showing off. I started wearing thongs in the early nineties, as my speedo's got progressively smaller, and felt turned on when someone felt simmilarly from looking at me, be they man or woman. I also enjoy looking at hot bodies, male or female;I enjoy the comments received on this site and mean the comments that I give. HOT is for all to see. It is just that my choice of a sexual partner in a hot woman

[pnhmrk]

Oh pnhmrk, I do SO hate people who simply cannot make up their damned mind!:rolleyes::D :D

So do I ;) But I don't have a problem with the mindset of liking men. women or both! :)

[BONNIE2006]

Fellers, fellers, ......you are making a big mistake here because you only know the "gay" scene.
.

This is quiet true i do only know the gay scene as i car'nt stand the macho rubbish you get when you go to a straight pub or club.But then the gay scene is getting just as bad with all its bitchy queens and drama queens.
i surpose it happens in all the diffrant groups.But what i want to know is why are the straight comunty starting to invade gay pubs and clubs here in the uk it is bscomming more and more common to find straight guys in gay clubs.But half of them would never bee seen dead walking or talking in public to a known gay person.:shocked

[deadgoodundiesdotcom]

As a straight guy i'd like to field that questions please :)

Straight guys in gay clubs : Because they are a lot more fun, plain and simple.
I admit it's been about 12 years since I went to a club but when I did straight guy, going to straight club was all about image, you went, your drank, you danced you tried to pick up girls , you'd sleep with them and hopefully you didn't see them again.
Go to a gay club and it was just about dancing and having a good time with none of the bullshit.
When I left a previous job where i'd been for about 13 years for my leaving do I was given the choice of where to have my leaving do (company was paying for it) and all the staff including myself first reaction was the gay night at the local club.

[The Bondsman]

what i want to know is why are the straight comunty starting to invade gay pubs and clubs here in the uk it is bscomming more and more common to find straight guys in gay clubs.But half of them would never bee seen dead walking or talking in public to a known gay person.:shocked
BONNIE, it is a well known fact that str8 people adopt gay habits and fashions, .....only about six years later and always a much cheaper version. Thus we now have the so-called "metrosexual", poofing around in at least five hair products, more make-up than the third act of the Mikado and wearing stuff that even flaming queens would hesitate to don.
(I will gladly lead the hunting party to shoot the ever-multiplying metrosexual menace into extinction, ....oh, did I say that?;):o:D)
But then I do SO hate blokes who can't make up their mind! :eek:;);):D
Anyway, I too have noticed the str8's preponderance for now frequenting gay clubs. It's probably because their own clubs a full of obnoxious drunks trying to pick up chicks, fights, violence and crappy music.
Now you will know that gays are definitely NOT welcome back in their clubs, .....but what really pisses me off is when gay men, ..and it's usually the younger ones, drag along some trashed up precious little flicky-haired blonde bitch to a gay club, who next week brings her boyfriend, and he then gets all upset and "macho" because some gay boy hits on him IN A GAY CLUB!

Next week there's a whole group of str8s, acting all "don't come near me", ..and so it goes.

GO BACK TO YOUR OWN SHIT-HOLES I say, ...sorry folks for the plain talk, but I'm NOT for this new warm fuzzy all-inclusiveness, all-in-together shit......when I go to a gay club I want to mix with gay blokes, (i.e. my own kind), and not have to cope with all the issues and dramas and very fragile egos that come in with the str8s. Gay men have enough problems of their own without having to deal with so-called "bi-curious" fence-sitters out for a free-perve!
Apologies to our str8 men here, but you DO have about a gazillion clubs of your own for str8s, .....where gay men are NOT allowed to dance together or even welcomed, .....do you really have to be in our few too?

A perfect example, ....here in my home town there is a huge gay New Year Party that blokes fly in for from all around the world. There's a crowd of probably four to five thousand, .....for three solid days of party. There has never been any fights or need for police presence, no arrests or drunkenness, or drug overdoses. Everybody feels perfectly safe.
Nearby a beach-side town hosts a party for straights.
Now it's a good year if the arrests are kept down under 50, ......the drunks vomit everywhere and absolutely trash the place with broken bottles and vandalism, costing thousands in rate-payers costs to repair, ..... half of 'em don't even bother with any accommodation, ...they sleep anywhere and shit everywhere. This is absolutely true, ..I am NOT making this up.

Now here's my worry, ....there has been a recent trend for str8 people to now buy tickets for the gay party. For now they have certainly been in the minority, BUT it's only a matter of time! Pity we can't somehow run a sexuality check at the ticket office I say!
One pissed str8 idiot last year fronted up to me and slurred "Yez got a lezzo space and a poof space, ...why don't yez have a str8 space?"
I replied, "Oh but we do have a str8 space mate, ......it's right OUTSIDE the fence!"
He was last seen being forcibly escorted from the gate by a large posse of VERY pissed off lesbians.:eek:
I also hate the way some str8 blokes make out how oh-so-tolerant they are by going to a gay club! Far as I'm concerned it's the gays who are showing tolerance by even allowing him in. Try going to a str8 club with your boyfriend and dancing, or even holding hands. It's my bet you will VERY rapidly be shown the exit by the management.
Yes I certainly DO have str8 friends, ...many of them; however sometimes I like to be amongst my own kind where a friendly kiss, a pat on the arse or a nipple tweak on the dance floor is NOT mis-interpreted as an afront to anyone's masculinity! It's just a compliment, and taken as such!

BONNIE, yes I know it's another long post, BUT I'm SO with you on this one!:cool:

[The Bondsman]

When I left a previous job where i'd been for about 13 years for my leaving do I was given the choice of where to have my leaving do (company was paying for it) and all the staff including myself first reaction was the gay night at the local club.
So all the "str8" blokes could have a good old macho-bonding belly-laugh watching all those funny poofs no doubt!:mad::mad::mad:
I have seen buck's nights, ...AND retirement nights too where a whole bunch of str8s decide to "invade" a gay club.
What the f--ks wrong with any of the hundreds of str8 clubs that you have to inflict your group on us? Sorry DGU, but I am SO against this sort of thing! :mad:
It would probably come as a surprise to some of your workmates, but we gay blokes are NOT the inmates of some zoo to provide hilarious entertainment for drunk str8s, to be laughed at the next day as you all tease some bloke because you imagined some poof was trying to pick him up. I know this happens, ...I've heard it!
Imagine if a group of poofs tried to hold a do in a str8 club! They would be forcibly ejected, ...if not bashed up for good measure!

[BONNIE2006]

BONNIE, yes I know it's another long post, BUT I'm SO with you on this one!

many thanks bondsman you have said just what i was trying to say but could not quiet find the words.p.s long posts dont bother me as long as thay make sense and that one hit the spot hunnie:rolleyes:

[The Bondsman]

many thanks bondsman you have said just what i was trying to say but could not quiet find the words.p.s long posts dont bother me as long as thay make sense and that one hit the spot hunnie:rolleyes:
I am glad you enjoyed it BONNIE. I'm sure others probably tuned out after the first sentence.
What I also truly find "astute" by str8 blokes in gay clubs is the way they just can't seem to understand that lesbians do not appreciate their lager-fuelled pawings and slurred corny chat up lines, ...nor do they find them utterly irresistible sexually! :confused:
Dos that shit actually work on str8 girls?
It amazes me that some of those blokes EVER get laid.....how drunk would their partners have to be?:rolleyes: