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Unregistered
10-06-2004, 10:03 AM
Are there any subtle signs that Str8 acting guys use to signal they are gay? I percipitated a loud scene in the locker room when I assumed this hot, shaved guy who always wore skimpy briefs was gay.

SNAPCASE
10-06-2004, 10:46 AM
Straight acting, how straight acting are they, when they are in my bed, with their legs in the air, yelling, shove it in me ??

briefs30
10-06-2004, 04:33 PM
I'm struggling with the question lol

SNAPCASE
10-07-2004, 09:40 AM
You know what confuses me, straight guys who act gay.

JohnH
10-07-2004, 12:34 PM
You know what confuses me, straight guys who act gay.

You can sure say that agaiin! And THEY'RE usually the ones who turn out to be the most homophobic! GO FIGURE!!!

SNAPCASE
10-07-2004, 12:51 PM
I gotta say that most (if not all) my gay friends are way bucher than your average straight guy. So drop that "straight acting" shit, like all gay men are limpwristed dramaqueens who listen to Cher all day.

WHAT A FUCKING INSULT !! You're watching too much TV buddy !!

briefs30
10-07-2004, 04:34 PM
What bugs me more is gay guys who describe themselves as "str8 acting" and get all het up (if you'll pardon the pun) about guys who are camp, or effeminate, not sporty etc etc etc. Some gay men seem to be rather homophic themselves about other sections of the community that don't quite fit their idea of what it means to be a gay man.

If it wasn't for the camp guys (anyone heard of the stonewall riots?) then the freedom that all sections of the gay community that is around today wouldn't exist. Love it or hate it, it's thanks to men who have sex with men who also like to dress up as women that we have to thank!

I have my likes and dislikes about the community and I can't say that I like every aspect of it - I don't spend much time on it these days. But my sexuality or the way I "act" is not what defines me - I'm just me.

I like the rainbow flag concept - we're a very diverse group of people and we need to respect each other. Those of us who define ourselves as gay that is. But I guess that our self-defined str8 brothers - some of whom on these boards seem to be in some sort of denial, in my opinon - are welcome under the umbrella of that great symbol that helps us know who we are to some extent.

Sod the hierarchy of oppression. Lets live and let live.

Sorry if I sound all moralistic or like I'm preaching - I don't want to come across that way, and I'm sure this board is not about politics - but I'm easily wound up about one or two things in life :D

Unregistered
10-07-2004, 05:50 PM
Are there any subtle signs that Str8 acting guys use to signal they are gay? I percipitated a loud scene in the locker room when I assumed this hot, shaved guy who always wore skimpy briefs was gay.

Sorry if I inadvertently stirred up a bit of a hornets nest but my question was STR8 forward. Most gays are not obviously gay, at least not to me. Yet when I go to a party, concert, park etc etc and see a guy I like, if he is gay are there subtle signs guys use to signal it to meet other similarly minded guys? I don't want any more scenes. OK?

Twain
10-07-2004, 10:06 PM
I'm only venturing an opinion because noone else seems to have addressed your question. Another caveat, I'm no expert, and still consider myself bi, though with a preference now for men.
Watch the guy's body language. Probably anyone can touch his package in the locker room. Does he seem to look around first, during or after? He could be looking for your reaction. Look at his eyes. Unless speaking to one another across the desk, str8 men look away after a very few seconds of eye contact. If his eyes linger longer on yours, he may be sending you a message. Watch his eyes if your hands stray for a moment to your cock.
Keep that casual, but a gay guy's eyes will linger a while longer. He might even smile.
How to learn to do this is simply to observe everyone's body language more. Of course, unlike oral language (pun intended) it's more subjective and thus open to interpretation, and you can be wrong. I've done it, and I bet everyone on this web page, unless in a committed relationship, has made this mistake. Try to laugh away your mistake. "I made a big one this time, let's see if I can make a huge one next time." :D
As many others have told you, be proud of who you are. You're important. You are worthwhile.

SNAPCASE
10-08-2004, 07:37 AM
What bugs me more is gay guys who describe themselves as "str8 acting" and get all het up (if you'll pardon the pun) about guys who are camp, or effeminate, not sporty etc etc etc. Some gay men seem to be rather homophic themselves about other sections of the community that don't quite fit their idea of what it means to be a gay man.

If it wasn't for the camp guys (anyone heard of the stonewall riots?) then the freedom that all sections of the gay community that is around today wouldn't exist. Love it or hate it, it's thanks to men who have sex with men who also like to dress up as women that we have to thank!

I have my likes and dislikes about the community and I can't say that I like every aspect of it - I don't spend much time on it these days. But my sexuality or the way I "act" is not what defines me - I'm just me.

I like the rainbow flag concept - we're a very diverse group of people and we need to respect each other. Those of us who define ourselves as gay that is. But I guess that our self-defined str8 brothers - some of whom on these boards seem to be in some sort of denial, in my opinon - are welcome under the umbrella of that great symbol that helps us know who we are to some extent.

Sod the hierarchy of oppression. Lets live and let live.

Sorry if I sound all moralistic or like I'm preaching - I don't want to come across that way, and I'm sure this board is not about politics - but I'm easily wound up about one or two things in life :D

The term "straight acting" is insulting to begin with. Like gay men are immitating straight men's behaviour ?? What is that all about ?

I'm a man and I like men, sorry if that's make me homophobic, I don't like queens and femmes (but then again I don't discrimate) ... but there's alot of people I don't like, so ... I'm not I hater, I deal with the people I want to deal with, the others leave me cold.

And like you said, live and let live.

PS ; I think the "straight" guys on this forum are funny.

nutnuzzler
10-10-2004, 01:38 PM
Well, first off, let me say that my partner of 13+years and I are NOT what either of us would have described as our ideal mate. But I do take exception to the "outrage" over the term "straight acting" described here. When it comes to describing the type of male that would appeal to me normally, that term is a perfect description, so I use it as a "cruising guide" and take it in that context. It doesn't mean to me that the person is intending to denigrate those of his own sexual preference. Maybe some are, but that's just not how I "read it".

And that said, my partner is not what I'd call "straight acting", but then I "knew" him in a different way before I found that out. And once I found it out, it no longer made any difference to me. I'd fallen in love with him as a person. So, definitely, I know to look past the description, but there are a lot of times I don't care to look further, if you get my drift.

I hope that makes some sense. :confused:

Also, while I'm on the subject, commenting "how straight is that" just because a guy physically enjoys something up his butt is equally as "off base" as "straight acting" is in some minds. The label "straight" goes to who you'd choose to go to bed with, not what you'd do in bed with them. It is like the whole argument about homophobic guys who get turned on watching two women together in my mind.

And yes, talldrkhng, men are funny, but god (I) love 'em.

Bikini650
01-02-2005, 11:43 AM
Your a laugh a min. snapcase. Just like southend of a northbound mule

SmoothChris
01-02-2005, 05:28 PM
Lot of hot air here - not surprisingly. Going back to the original post - the question related to a shaved guy who wore skimpy briefs (like me), but responded badly to an assumption that he was gay. I'm not surprised. I don't like people making assumptions about my sexuality, either (I'm confused enough as it is), and would respond under such circumstances only after a clear exchange of subtle body-signals. Anyone in a sports club locker room who starts by making suggestive comments or flashes his cock at me in front of other people gets pretty short shrift. On the other hand, if he stays naked just a little longer than he need in my line of vision, and I see him quietly watching when I strip off and doesn't look away when he sees I'm smooth, we exchange smiles and we both see each other firm up a bit, then maybe it's time for a shower...

The Bondsman
01-02-2005, 11:40 PM
Okay, I'm gonna chuck my opinion in here too on this "straight-acting" shit.
(For those of you with "delicate" sensibilities, read no further!)

If ever there was a term that pushes ALL my buttons at once, it's this one! :mad: :mad: :mad:
What the hell is straight-acting anyway? It has been my observation that straights act in hugely diverse ways.....that's just as it should be, and seems to be OK with most people.
Why does the gay popualtion have to get all prissy?

I think "straight-acting" is a term that a certain group WITHIN the gay community has instituted to bash other members of our own community who do not conform to their crappy, elitist and snobbish criteria.

Now it has been my experience that str8 men do NOT suck cock, nor indulge in the practice of have anal intercourse committed upon their person, ....please advise me if others have found otherwise!
I may have to re-assess....

Therefore, any dick-head who advertises his orientation as "straight-acting" is quite likely to get an uncharacteristic very rude response from me.
In fact, he can take his straight-acting homophobia and shove it just where he probably puts his own dildo!

The gay world is being rapidly filled up with what I describe as "FAUX-MOSEXUALS".Surely you know the type, ...outwardly they adopt every fashion, style, haircut and mannerism of the average gay-boy and even hang out in gay joints feeding on the attention from gay men but still claiming to be str8!
This is certainly blurring the boundaries, and can cause some of us who have engaged the gay-dar to have an understandible mis-identification. We've ALL made moves that just have to be scored as "incomplete forward passes",....sometimes even causing a scene unregistered!

But the very last thing we need, ...AND from within our own group, ...are snotty nosed pricks who see themselves as just SO much more valid than some drag-queen, or person who just may have a few characteristics that don't conform to their self-induced criteria of masculinity.

I totally agree with briefs30, ...where were these precious little str8-acters when the sequin-studded and made-up drag queens were actually standing up for gay rights and fighting back when the police were bashing the shit out of the patrons of Stonewall?
Afraid to get involved, that's where!

Personally, I don't give a rat's left testicle what signals a straight-acting guy uses to signal he's gay.
He can DIE with his bloody little secret for all I care!
Sorry for the plain speaking Mr Unregistered, ....I'm hoping you're NOT one of the so-called above.

Embrace and accept your sexuality, in whatever shade or degree it may come in. There's just NO black & white here, ....it's a huge scale where we all find our own position on it.
I am a gay man, ....I don't dress up in drag, but I will defend to the bitter end any other man who chooses to do so, or indulge in overtly "gay(?) behaviour", ...... and certainly not think myself more of a "man" just because I don't.
If someone wants to make an assumption, ...any assumption about my sexuality, go right ahead! If not, I'll probably tell you!

Unregistered, if you can't tell by the eye-contact the signals a guy is sending out, then you need to go back to "Gay-School"!!! :D :D :D

deusex
01-03-2005, 08:05 AM
While I agree with a lot said in the thread I think unregistered was just posing a lighthearted query.

In fact, with the exception of one comment about a donkey (a little uncalled for), it's been a pretty civil dicscussion. Just remember, if you're saying something in jest, please don't forget to include your emoticons (the smileys over on the side of the posting box!!) They are paramount to getting your point across!

The point is gay people are as diverse as straight people. There really are no rules. But...people seem to need to organize people (and things) - into stereotypes. Maybe it just helps in understanding the unknown. who knows?

Unregistered, not to confuse you even more, but here's just another piece of the puzzle. Someone may be gay, but just may not be interested in you. Seems like you could have many possibilities:

1. A guy in a locker room is straight and not interested because he's straight
2. A guy in a locker room is straight but may be interested in experimenting (but not with you)
3. A guy in a locker room is straight but may be interested in experimenting and you will do fine.
4. A guy in a locker room is gay and is interested in you.
5. A guy in a locker room is gay but isn't interested in you.

The only way to really know is to trust your instincts and not your desires. A homophbic striaght male will more than likely sending you vibes in his body language or his verbal language. Try befriending someone first unless you're in a gay bar - or do as I do - meet guys on the internet (gaydar works for me - it's where I met my last two boyfriends) - just be carefull and for god's sake be safe.

And back to this thread....

I have no problem with people stating their opinions, in fact I encourage it - it just helps us understand each other, but try not to insult. There's a diplomatic way to approach everything.

Most you of here know I don't like my guys shaven, but then I look at thongs4guys and my god he looks fucking amazing - and he's straight and he shaves.

Onan
01-03-2005, 01:53 PM
I totally agree with Briefs 30.