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SexyThong
05-09-2005, 07:48 AM
Question for ALL of you out there: does underwear preference really imply sexuality? Are boxer wearers really conservative? are boxerbriefs wearers really only tops and the 'aggressor' in a relationship? Are bikini/jock/thong wearers the 'catchers' and bottoms in a relationship are are more feminine than everyone else?
Let us all know your thoughts!
castrosatyr
05-09-2005, 10:17 AM
What a fun idea for a poll, SexyThong! Thanks for your enthusiastic presence here on usg.
May I humbly suggest another (small) modification in the language used in your poll? I think equating bottom with feminine and top with masculine is a bit narrow minded and probably exacerbates stereotyping.
Some of the butchest (gay) guys I know identify as bottoms.
I just finished reading a great biography of the late disco star and gay icon Sylvester (The Fabulous Sylvester, check it out, it's a lot of fun). As much as he loved his makeup and wigs, his glittery sequined dresses and furs, and his over-the-top jewelry, that queen was a total top!
Also, just an observation: the population here is, I believe, largely gay (with a few exceptions), so the poll will be skewed with regard to the gay/straight axis.
As for me, I'm a 50/50 versatile guy who absolutely loves to trade fucks with another man, and my undergear collection includes everything from Brooks Brothers boxers to a pink silk thong, from Calvin "tighty-whities" to a black leather jock.
justaguy
05-09-2005, 10:37 AM
I've always found the notion that underwear preferences map in any useful way onto sexuality to be pretty bogus. Now that may be biased by the fact that I'm a straight guy (Happily married with kids) who loves to wear thongs and skimpy bikinis. I do think there are a few edge case exceptions. When you get to very specific stereotyped fetishes, where the underwear is highly tied to the fetish, you may get some small linkage.
People are way to complicated to do the "boxers == straight" or "boxers == masculine" crap. In the past twenty years of my life, I've seen pretty much every mix of personality and underwear mixed together, and I just don't see anything that says they tie togther very strongly. Some people like how they look and feel in boxers, some people like how they look and feel in thongs. Some people are uptight about how other people look at them, others aren't.
And you know what, else? Yhat's people, guys and girls, straight and gay. One of the most flirty, feminine, sexy women I know wears utterly boring, plain cotton panties. She may be sporting a totally over the top body baring halter and short shorts, and have panties you'd expect on a twelve year old girl underneath. I've also got an ex girlfriend, who was totally demure, and conservative in her dress, and likely to be found with a pair of wet look latex thong panties and matching bra underneath her long skirt. Go figure.
Unregistered
05-09-2005, 11:08 AM
In my football club, when I was still playing, the str8s were wearing the most sexy underwear. We were 2 gays there. Some of the guys knew we were gay, but not all, I think. When the horizontal fly of HOM was launched, one of the str8s had it immediately. He was wearing it and the other ones were very interested. 4 of them tried it on, even got their dick out of the fly in order to see how it all worked. I didn't dare to show too much interest in what was happening. I didn't want to embarass those str8 men, because what was happening there was really nice. So, I don't think you can infer something from underwear. Since I tried to get my gayness not too visible for those men (in order not to embarass them), I was always wearing common underwear (briefs: briefs are very common in Europe). I always keep very low profile with str8s, even when they know I am gay.
The Bondsman
05-12-2005, 02:23 AM
I always keep very low profile with str8s, even when they know I am gay.
Now "unregistered", I'm sure you do this for your own reasons, ...but to me it just reeks of playing the inferior role that makes many (not all) straights more comfortable around gays they claim to "tolerate"! Don't you just HATE that word? They are keeping you "down", ...and subserviant! Indeed, they don't NEED to. You seem to be doing a good job of that yourself!
Stop acting second rate!
If you are gay, you're every bit as good as someone who is straight, and therefore why the hell the "low profile"??? :confused:
Me? While I wouldn't classify myself as a "screamer", & even if I was, I certainly act just the way I want to infront of so-called straights, gays or whatever.
If we want equality, we sure as hell have to take it and act it!
I certainly don't want to see gay guys "pussy-footing" it around straights and treating them like they are the master-race because of their sexuality.
People know exactly who/what I am, ....and if they have a problem with that, then it's THEIR problem! I have NO problem with their being straight.
Now I'm sorry for the plain speaking here, but this is just one issue, along with the "straight acting" thing that is guaranteed to get me going!
SweatyAussie
06-01-2005, 11:46 AM
With respect to justaguy and others, certainly there are stereotypes in the matter of underwear preferences, but isn't this poll trying to establish whether the stereotype has any basis in fact?
It's called research.
My only complaint is that, as someone else said, the wording of the poll is equating masculinity with being a "top".
I would also suggest there would be a regional variation. Speaking to Europeans leads me to think that in general they are less "hung up" on wearing gear that shows off their masculinity. This seems to apply specially to thongs, which a lot of men here (Australia) seem to regard as feminine.
SweatyAussie
06-01-2005, 11:55 AM
Well said, Bondsman, especially the bit about "straight acting", one of my pet hates.
There may be an excuse for acting straight around other straights in certain situations... unfortunately some of our brothers are still in places where they can be persecuted or even jailed (or worse) for being known to be homosexual. There is no need however to "act straight" with someone when you each know the other is gay.
I suspect that often when someone says "straight acting", what they mean is being masculine in mannerisms rather than being effeminate... in which case they should simply say so.
I should add that even though I am not attracted to effeminate types, I do not want to criticise their lifestyle - as long as they are living the way they want to live, rather than "acting" for someone else's benefit.
Now "unregistered", I'm sure you do this for your own reasons, ...but to me it just reeks of playing the inferior role that makes many (not all) straights more comfortable around gays they claim to "tolerate"! Don't you just HATE that word? They are keeping you "down", ...and subserviant! Indeed, they don't NEED to. You seem to be doing a good job of that yourself!
Stop acting second rate!
If you are gay, you're every bit as good as someone who is straight, and therefore why the hell the "low profile"??? :confused:
Me? While I wouldn't classify myself as a "screamer", & even if I was, I certainly act just the way I want to infront of so-called straights, gays or whatever.
If we want equality, we sure as hell have to take it and act it!
I certainly don't want to see gay guys "pussy-footing" it around straights and treating them like they are the master-race because of their sexuality.
People know exactly who/what I am, ....and if they have a problem with that, then it's THEIR problem! I have NO problem with their being straight.
Now I'm sorry for the plain speaking here, but this is just one issue, along with the "straight acting" thing that is guaranteed to get me going!
The Bondsman
06-03-2005, 01:23 AM
Glad you agree SweatyAussie!
SOME of the so called "straight acting" faggotts should remember that it was the effeminate guys who actually decided to fight back at Stonewall, while the str8 acting wannabees were probably cowering in their closets, terrified their faces might be damaged!
SweatyAussie
06-04-2005, 12:01 PM
A pity there weren't a few S & M "tops" at the Stonewall. Then the cops might have got their arses whipped.
Unregistered
06-05-2005, 02:15 AM
I'm staright and 17 and where different types of brands and underwear.
Here they are:
Boxers-
- Old Navy
- Abercrombie
- American Eagle
Boxer-Briefs-
- Abercrombie
- American Eagle
- Champion
- Old Navy
- Hanes (one 1 pair)
- Under Armour (for cross country, 1 pair)
To tell you the truth, based on what I see sticking out and in the locker room, a lot guys are wearing boxer-briefs. But most still wear boxes, mostly FTL or Hanes, but some wear Aeropostale, Old Navy, and American Eagle. Just letting ya know.
Topper Don
06-06-2005, 01:59 PM
What brand and or type of underwear do Gay guys wear?
BareAssGuy
06-09-2005, 12:13 AM
I've tried various types of undies and am currently freeballing.
I find it extremely comfortable and definitely prefer it to the various
types of undies. The ONLY time in the last year that I wore any underwear
was when I was ill and then I wore just a t-shirt and loose boxers and
nothing else -- so then it wasn't really being treated as "underwear" but
was a substitute for pjs (which I haven't worn in years -- have slept nude 35+ years!)
If you haven't tried it you should -- even if you don't become a "convert"
you may find it comfortable enough to do now and again.
I'm bi and I'm into wearing bikini briefs and thongs. I haven't met anyone who's complained and they get me going.
SweatyAussie
06-09-2005, 03:29 PM
OK. Each to their own. But in that case, why come here to a site that's dedicated to the love of underwear?
I've tried various types of undies and am currently freeballing.
I find it extremely comfortable and definitely prefer it to the various
types of undies. The ONLY time in the last year that I wore any underwear
was when I was ill and then I wore just a t-shirt and loose boxers and
nothing else -- so then it wasn't really being treated as "underwear" but
was a substitute for pjs (which I haven't worn in years -- have slept nude 35+ years!)
If you haven't tried it you should -- even if you don't become a "convert"
you may find it comfortable enough to do now and again.
superdoc
06-22-2005, 02:27 AM
Who cares about anyone's sexuality? I don't! I just love to discuss all kinds of underwear--jocks, boxers, boxerbriefs, briefs, etc. with any guy, especially Bondsman, who shares my love of soaked, white briefs. What a guy's sexuality is is (shades of Clinton!) no problem for me, as long as he can fix my car, fix a plumbing leak, etc., or, if I am in Iraq, he can shoot straighter than I can, so that we both can return home.
The Bondsman
06-23-2005, 02:49 AM
Superdoc, I love you......and I am well known as a VERY str8 shot! :cool: It's the ONLY str8 thing about me, so we'll both come back, ...and I can probabaly help you out with a few of those other things too! :D
If you ever decide to turn............... ;) ;) ;)
danny108
06-24-2005, 06:49 AM
I don't think the type of underwear has anything to do with sexuality either. Just beacause you wear skimpy underwear does not mean you are gay.
Men should be proud of their packages and be able to wear underwear that shows it off well, not hide it in baggy boxers
SweatyAussie
06-24-2005, 05:06 PM
Some of you guys (Superdoc for example) seem to be stressing out about this poll, as if to suggest that the author of the poll was being judgemental in some way.
I did not take it this way at all. Maybe underwear preference DOES give a clue to sexuality, maybe it DOESN'T, but the way to get answers is to ask questions. Surely we can talk about sexual preferences here? It's not exactly off-topic!
Iraq on the other hand is definitely off-topic. Another fetish site that I belong to has been nearly ruined by people choosing to focus on politics. Please don't let that happen to this site.
deusex
07-19-2005, 06:34 AM
waarce,
Congratulation on the baby! I just recently became an uncle (it's my only brother's first and only, so it's quite a big deal!) My neice is going to spoiled rotten from her uncle! ;)
Welcome to the site - as you probably know if you've read through the message board, everyone is welcome here. There's lots of other straight guys who, like you, either like the way underwear feel and/or like seeing them on other guys. You're right, it doesn't mean a thing. Stereotypes are so last year.
btw - you look great in your whities in your avatar!
xy47402
08-02-2005, 04:40 AM
(I just joined this forum so I'm kind of new at this.) I don't believe it's possible (or advisable) to make presumptions about any man's sexuality based on his underwear choices. On the other hand, at least in conservative Indiana, there does seem to be some sort of strait-boxer/gay-brief phenomenon that I find, frankly, stupid. Strait men live in such terror of gay men and the prospect that someone might suspect THEM as gay, they'll do almost anything to avoid it, like buying the ugliest, baggiest boxer underwear and ethnic-dork shorts that hang down to the knees. Gay men, in their desperate adoration of strait guys and their own desire to appear strait, can be seen aping the strait guys. How sad. Why don't I just go to the Salvation Army store and buy a tawdry dingy used bedsheet and drape it around my ass like Mahatma Ghandi? I could let the excess fabric hang out over the waistband of my jeans and flap in the breeze. It would make about as much sense as the unattractive non-functional underwear that guys wear nowadays. What's wrong with underwear, the shape and style of which draws lines across the body in the logical places; underwear that flatters the body? And the same goes for swimwear and athletic shorts, too. If you're one of the many strait guys who feel alarmed or offended that someone might suspect you of being gay, have you ever thought exploring WHY you feel this way -- like, maybe with a professional therapist? It seems unhealthy to let something like this dictate any aspect of your life. If you're a strait man who is concerned that he might attract the unwanted attention of a gay guy, well, let's be honest. In the first place, you KNOW you LIKE the attention because it boosts your ego. Every man likes to be admired for his body, even by another guy. You like it; we know you like it; and now you know that we know you like it -- so cut the posturing. If you ARE one of those men who are bothered by the possibility that a gay man might notice him let me advice that you adopt a little grace. Keep in mind that you won't be young & attractive forever. Time & age happen us all. Someday, you will look in the mirror to discover that you have become a fat, sagging, wrinkled bag of bones. The compliments will have stopped coming long before then, so why not enjoy it while it lasts? Don't get all big-headed and conceited about it, mind you. Many strait guys have this weird and unattractive habit of overestimating their own physical attractiveness. They have another weird habit of assuming that just because some guy is gay, he must be attracted to them and ready to put the moves on him. Wrong. Many times, we're just curious or window shopping. And nothing turns me off faster than a conceited asshole, no matter how pretty he [thinks he] is.
deusex
08-02-2005, 08:28 AM
Keep in mind that you won't be young & attractive forever. Time & age happen us all. Someday, you will look in the mirror to discover that you have become a fat, sagging, wrinkled bag of bones.
Not much to look forward to is it? :( May as well slit my wrist - i'm going to be 40 next year!
Also want to mention, that yes those stereotypes do apply to some straight males, but there are plenty of straight males that that doesn't apply to - and we have a lot of them here on this message board. I've just come from Montreal Pride and we had Toronto Pride a month ago, and there were more straight guys and girls then ever before - all partying and having fun. The world she is a changing. (well, maybe not so much in the States, until Bush goes down) ;)
SmoothChris
08-02-2005, 06:18 PM
Speaking as a fat, sagging, wrinkled bag of bones myself, may I just say how nice it is to see a member of the younger generation accepting that he, along with everyone else, is going to get older. This is just to reassure him that when he reaches this exalted physical state he will feel exactly the same inside as he did when he was 20. He will still be that slim, athletic and physically desirable guy - its just that the correct image refuses to appear in the mirror. His sexuality will not have diminished one jot - although perhaps his stamina may.
I have long wondered at the varied underwear styles that men (both gay and straight) wear - and presumably feel good in. The guy who feels great in blue Y-fronts must feel good in them - why else would he wear them? The same applies to the grotesque abominations they call board shorts (or rather longs), although I suspect that many who wear them are the unquestioning slaves of fashion and may not be expressing their own preferences at all. However, one of the things about getting older is seeing the other guy's point of view, and I can understand why the wearer of blue Y-fronts, even one who tucks his shirt inside them, should be puzzled as to why a fat, sagging, wrinkled bag of bones like me should want to wear a g-string when anyone else can see him. My answer is quite simple: the slim, athletic and desirable guy looks and feels good in it.
If another man sees me wearing a sheer g-string with an unmistakeable bulge, and on closer inspection discovers that I am shaved, he may read that as indicating a) a preference for more 'accepting' roles and b) a clear signal that I am waiting for him to come on to me. He'd be right.
xy47402
08-04-2005, 03:31 AM
Not much to look forward to is it? :( May as well slit my wrist - i'm going to be 40 next year!
Well, Deusex, I don't believe that life ends at 40. There are other, more fulfilling aspects to life than sexual attractiveness that make life worthwhile the whole way. My point is; I have no sympathy for strait men who react to the attention of gay men as though their manhood had been insulted and they must vigorously defend their sacred male honor. Please -- get over it. I once wrote an invitation to a strait guy -- I didn't know for sure that he was strait at the time -- for a romantic date. He replied, graciously enough, to decline my invitation and assure me that he was quite heterosexual. He made a point of telling me not to worry; that my interest in him didn't make him "feel gay or anything." Well, bully for him but am I supposed to be relieved or glad about this? What does that mean, anyway -- to "fee" "gay"? It's THAT kind of thinking that I don't understand.
deusex
08-04-2005, 08:49 AM
xy47402,
I was really joking about the 40 comment. Humour is just so hard to convey in message boards!
My main point is that I understand where you're coming from and have encountered guys just like the ones you mention, but I personally try to stay away from stereotypes - especially on a message board that I've spent so long and hard to try to create an atmosphere that's welcoming to guys with an underwear fetish whether they're gay or straight. So when you have generic blanket statements about straight guys (yes I know you said "Many") I have to defend my friends both here on the board and in real life that are straight and just don't have this attitude.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that you're here and speaking your mind - it makes for great discussion which is what this board is about but I just felt a need to stand up for the multitudes of straight guys who are not like that.
:cool:
The Bondsman
08-06-2005, 12:35 AM
I have to recognize that the CKs are a favorite of the gay community, but that does not make the wearer gay..
No of course not waarce, ....any more than wearing flannel shirts makes the wearer str8! :D :D :D
I just cannot see myself having sex with another man.
Well you will find it difficult unless you use a mirror! LOL!!!
Only kidding you, ......great to have another str8 guy here who likes MEN'S underwear.
SweatyAussie
08-21-2005, 10:52 AM
Speaking as someone who is currently 56, I can state with good authority that life does NOT end at 40, nor does it necessarily become less fulfilling.
Moreover I definitely do not get less out of sex than I did when younger. I have found, oddly enough, that I have become more selective in partners. If I get the vibe that the person is not going to be a good sexual experience, I tend to think my time and energy are better spent elsewhere. It is no longer a matter of huge importance whether I get to screw this particular guy, there have been plenty in the past and there will be others, I don't have anything I have to prove to myself.
One of my pet hates is hearing (or seeing) a 45-year-old guy saying "I can't do this, I can't do that, I'm past it" and I think what does that make me? There is plenty of ageism about, but often it is self-inflicted.
Well, Deusex, I don't believe that life ends at 40.
rangesman
08-27-2005, 07:00 PM
Spot on the money in everything you say Bondsman; no excuses, no self-censoring, and no subservience to the"str8" man.
The Bondsman
08-28-2005, 02:14 AM
Speaking as someone who is currently 56, ...........one of my pet hates is hearing (or seeing) a 45-year-old guy saying "I can't do this, I can't do that, I'm past it" and I think what does that make me? There is plenty of ageism about, but often it is self-inflicted.
And let me be the first to say what GREAT shape you are in for 56!!!
Now I know this can't be attributed to "clean living" ;) , but there are many guys much younger who would envy your body.
I too hate the seemingly age-ist thread of thinking that seems endemic in our gay culture at the moment. It's as if gay men just magically fade away once they reach 30, ....or should!!! We have become so entrenched in body fascism and vapid youth culture that we seem to forget or ignore that we will all grow old eventually, ....if we are lucky enough to survive.
Age-ism is bad enough in itself, but like you SweatyAussie, I agree that when it is self-imposed it's just a tragedy.
Sexuality lies within and is not determined or influenced by what you wear. Wear what you like and what suits you needs. Mine is comfort, support and a preference for white full cut cotton briefs.
AZTanDan
09-16-2005, 10:17 AM
You are what you are, so wear what you want to wear. It's that simple. Individual tastes when spec'd out with others particular tastes only indicate that there are others like you. This is not a formal psych exam, it's a poll. Not necessarily a random poll either. We all have one thing in common, so naturally the poll is going to reflect that. It's also going to reflect some diversity. It's not all encompassing, and it's not an accurate indicator. It's a little bit of fun and amusement. So don't take things so seriously and enjoy who you are! :cool:
SweatyAussie
09-16-2005, 12:57 PM
Not sure who it was... might have been Maurice Chevalier...
Someone asked him "Are you looking forward to turning 80?"
He replied: "Yes, especially when I consider the alternative."
we seem to forget or ignore that we will all grow old eventually, ....if we are lucky enough to survive.
seemenow
11-07-2005, 11:28 PM
Hmmm. This looks like a good place to say "hi". :)
I'm straight and I LOVE to fuck! And, I LOVE the female body! That said, I am totally into masturbation and love to cum anywhere and everywhere. I have to say that the pics here are awesome! The male cock is quite a sight as well. :blowme
Anyway, you'll see me around and I hope to get some more pics going.
Robby
Hmmm. This looks like a good place to say "hi". :)
I'm straight and I LOVE to fuck! And, I LOVE the female body! That said, I am totally into masturbation and love to cum anywhere and everywhere. I have to say that the pics here are awesome! The male cock is quite a sight as well. :blowme
Anyway, you'll see me around and I hope to get some more pics going.
Robby
Same for me, but some words changed
Hmmm. This looks like a good place to say "hi".
I'm gay and I LOVE to fuck! And, I LOVE the male body! That said, I am totally into masturbation and love to cum anywhere and everywhere. I have to say that the pics here are awesome! The male cock is quite a sight as well.
Anyway, you'll see me around and I hope to get some more pics going.
Onan
seemenow
11-09-2005, 01:53 AM
Ah, yes! A few words do make the story. :hump
I am totally into this and love to masturbate. Therefor, I LOVE zee cock! :p
That said, a nice, warm pussy is a blanket that I love as well. :)
coldshower
11-09-2005, 09:57 AM
I have to agree with seemenow. I love the female body, but also love to storke and shoot my jiz. A nice juicy pussy is a beautiful sight and I love to play with them, but I also like to look at hot throbbing cocks in or out of underwear.
BxrbrfGuy
12-21-2005, 04:19 PM
I believe that it is "to each his/her own". I myself am gay and wear boxer briefs and am not a domm top, so that rules out the stereotype. I will wear reg. boxers around the house and to sleep once in a while but am a boxer brief guy. I know gay, bi, str8 guys that very in what style they wear... I even now this girl who likes to wear mens boxers/boxer briefs. I think it's more a matter of comfort and style of fashion what made me go to boxer briefs. Now I can also give my opinion as a Fashion Expert for Express Men's Clothing. Working in fashion I have found that the style of underwear a guy wears can make a diff. in how dress pants and even jeans fit, look and feel when wearing them. Quick examples: (from guys I've helped)- boxers w/jeans felt to crammy and would bunch up, w/dress pants the boxer would work nice depending on the guys endowment. Some guys didn't want to show to much and others didn't mind, so the style of underwear would have to be changed to accommidate for that. Most guys (not saying all) like wearing boxer briefs and found that they go with just about any type of pant.
I say wear what's good for you, afterall it's your body and parts.
sorry for my spelling.... where's the spellcheck on here? :)
dayne
12-22-2005, 03:51 PM
I had an interesting discussion with someone last night. He had moved from Chicago to Phoenix and quit wearing unerwear because of the heat. He couldn't understand why I wear thongs at times because of the heat. I thought the idea of less material=less heatbuild up.
The idea of wearing different styles for different types of garments hadn't occured to him. He then asked me what I was wearing under my jeans. I had to think if I was wearing anything. I think he was more surprised than anything when I told him that I wore things for comfort 90% of the time. Hence, I didn't even know if I had any on. I think this is a man who is going to give some serious thought as to what underwear is all about!
Newbie2it
03-02-2006, 11:20 AM
I had an interesting discussion with someone last night. He had moved from Chicago to Phoenix and quit wearing unerwear because of the heat. He couldn't understand why I wear thongs at times because of the heat. I thought the idea of less material=less heatbuild up.
The idea of wearing different styles for different types of garments hadn't occured to him. He then asked me what I was wearing under my jeans. I had to think if I was wearing anything. I think he was more surprised than anything when I told him that I wore things for comfort 90% of the time. Hence, I didn't even know if I had any on. I think this is a man who is going to give some serious thought as to what underwear is all about!
LOL Dayne,
I love the last line. On the topic of what you wear makes you something, to me, is not valid. I am gay and am apt to wear anything from boxer briefs to thongs, jocks and G-strings. Tightie whities to boxers. If it fits and looks good, I'll wear it.
So if I went with the original poll, I'm am a masculine top and a fem bottom and straight and bi and gay all rolled into one. Ok, thats too confusing. LOL I'll stick with gay and wear what I want :)
Paul
<regarding the pictures and this tread, I just realised this was last posted to back in Dec of 05, but since I've already made the pictures for this.. im posting them anyhow> :::Shrug::: Who knows.. Maybe it can bring some life back to this topic.. Anyhow.. here goes. Lemme know what you think.
dayne
03-08-2006, 02:33 AM
Newbie-
You say, "On the topic of what you wear makes you something, to me, is not valid." I simply haven't a clue as to how you got that out of what I said. I should hope you'll not be thinking that I am being rude in asking as I really am curious. This is how a good exchange of ideas comes to be, correct?
I have worn and still wear just about everything you could ever think of including custom things from different designers. It sounds to me like you wear about the same. Men like the fellow from Chicago never thought about underwear more than what there mothers or wives have bought for them over the years. I think that our discussion opened his eyes to some options he had never considered. My last line refered to just that.
As to my remark about qualifying people in a poll. I am glad it helped you see where you are with things. That is precisely the purpose of making such comments. They help me see where I might be at any given time.
By the way when you say, lol, is it laughing out loud or lot's of luck? :confused: What you said would make more sense if I knew?
Cheers!
Newbie2it
03-08-2006, 02:48 AM
Newbie-
You say, "On the topic of what you wear makes you something, to me, is not valid." I haven't a clue as to how you got that out of what I said. :confused: So, I am not sure what you are getting at. I should hope you'll not be thinking that I am being rude in asking as I really am curious. This is how a good exchange of ideas comes to be, correct?
I have worn and wear just about everything you could ever think of including custom things from different designers. It sounds to me like you wear about the same. Men like the fellow from Chicago have never thought about underwear more than what there mothers or wives have bought for them over the years. I think that our discussion opened his eyes to some options he had never considered.
As to my remark about qualifying people in a poll. I am the one your Mother warned you about. Nobody is safe with me It never occured to me that I shouldn't do what I wanted to do-so I have. When I first came out gay was enough and now it isn't. Not a right or wrong thing-it is just a thing. Quite frankly, I don't even remember making the remark. If it leads to you getting some interesting feedback on the subject, I am glad I made it.
By the way when you say, lol, is it laughing out loud or lot's of luck? :confused: Perhaps what you said would make more sense if I knew.
Cheers!
Hi Dayne When I said "On the topic of" I was refering to the poll and its posts. As for the one my mom warned me about.... I never listened to my mom <eg> As for LOL I mean Laughing out Loud... I've never heard "Lots of Luck, But that does work and I can see your confusion there.
Seriously.. My "On the tpoic" statment was regarding the poll and its asking if what I wear makes me gay, straight ect.. Anything there after was an explanation. No harm ment and sorry if you took its meaning wrongly.
Paul
dayne
03-08-2006, 03:28 AM
Paul, and to others on the board who will read this,
I have spent a great deal of time in the ER"S, ICU's, and Acute Rehabs of four different hospitals in a very short period of time.I also am watching a very dear friend die of AIDS as he stopped all treatment several months ago.
Yes, there was an edge to what I said and I apologize as it was truly not meant to be nasty. I have just been dealing with some very crucial situations lately and sometimes forget to leave that critical edge behind. This is a great board and I do not want to create any bad feelings. Maybe it would be better if I just eliminated the post, but then further comments by Paull would not make sense.
Paul sent me a private message concerning all this and was most kind. The best thing I can say to Paul is thanks for being understanding and am glad to know that a new member such as yourself is such a great addition.
Anybody want to take a gun and put me out of my misery??? Actually to make things better earlier this evening, I went and bought some new underwear. If you bring a gun use the same kind as the vice president used recently. I haven't warn them yet and it would be a shame if I don't get to!!! And, no, this is not a political comment-just in fun.
Dayne
deusex
03-08-2006, 07:00 AM
Dayne,
No worries and no guns neccessary (except the ones in our undies!) and sorry about your friend.
It's easy to misunderstand the written word. Things like humour and sarcasm are the hardest things to convey.
I origianlly took offense to this poll/post as I thought it was just enforcing a lot of stereotypes, but I left it and glad I did, as it's turned out to be a very eye opening and generally constructive thread.
I myself wear jockstraps, briefs, thongs, boxer briefs, crazy pouch stuff from koala, and even go commando sometimes if the mood hits. Try to pigeon hole me! :)
Newbie2it
03-08-2006, 11:37 AM
Hi Dayne,
Sorry to hear about your friend. I can understand how things get to you at times. Hope you made it to Jury duty ok and wearing your new undies. BTW, No, I dont play vice President.
No offence taken :)
Hope things get a little better over there.
sseguin6
03-26-2006, 06:14 PM
I think its perferctly natural for a straight man to like thongs, speedos and sexy underwear. I think what looks good, fits well and feels great has no sexual orientation.
superdoc
03-27-2006, 12:21 AM
Sorry, I see no correlation between what a guy wears for underwear and his sexuality. What any guy chooses to don for underwear for the day is a matter of preference for underwear, and, the opposite, what a guy chooses for his sexuality is simply a matter of choice of friends and relationships. Does it really matter? :bath :bath :bath
The Bondsman
03-28-2006, 01:26 AM
what a guy chooses for his sexuality is simply a matter of choice of friends and relationships. Does it really matter? :bath :bath :bath
I mean absolutely NO offence to anybody with this comment, but as I see it one doesn't really get a choice in one's sexuality. Yes, you can choose to modify it or try to go against it by adopting certain behaviour, but I still think you are what you are.
It's not just like chosing whether to wear the briefs or the bikini this morning....
superdoc
03-28-2006, 01:36 AM
None taken. This place allows for an array of ideas. We are just a bunch of guys who like our underwear. :bath :bath
numskull
03-30-2006, 07:59 PM
I didn't know exactly which selection to choose, im a straight guy, but i am a equal oppurtunity underwear wearer, i do thongs and trunks, hip briefs and jocks. What can i say i like it all!
Newbie2it
03-31-2006, 12:37 AM
I didn't know exactly which selection to choose, im a straight guy, but i am a equal oppurtunity underwear wearer, i do thongs and trunks, hip briefs and jocks. What can i say i like it all!
Hmmm.. Then that means one of two things... Your a straight/gay/bi/whatever male thats confused at your dresser -or- your an undie lover. I think the last one applies ;)
blacksocksuk
04-12-2006, 06:30 AM
I'm trying to stay sane after ploughing through this thread but the subject seems just too vague and not really all that stimulating. Like many others I can find no intrinsic value in a correlation between sexuality and underwear preference. One could change either factor infinitely and still get the same broad cross-section of answers; there is no set rule so why in this case try and find one? Sorry to be negative but it seems that a lot of time is being giving over by many to this "poll" when it is clearly deeply flawed. I must remind myself before I leave the flat this morning that if I'm wearing boxers I'm straight, I'm straight...
superdoc
04-12-2006, 06:50 AM
So, you are straight and wear boxers? Who cares? I am and do also. In my opinion (or my 2 cents' worth), I don't care if you are a homosexual or straight, I just love to discuss underwear and this site does it well :bath :bath :bath . Just check out my homepage in my profile.
blacksocksuk
04-12-2006, 07:05 AM
Come on Superdoc, what do you think mate. Seriously, look at the little piccy near my name and what do you think. It's called IRONY mate - I'm neither straight nor wear boxers but what the fuck difference does that make? I hoped it would be a blessed relief from the banality of this thread but even that gets lost on some! This is just such a weak, redundant poll that I wanted to help expose it for its crushing boredom factor. I'm certainly not wasting my energy on this thread any more as the idiocy level is just too high.
superdoc
04-12-2006, 07:15 AM
Is my face red? I bit on that like a fish after that wonderful worm! Your photo set does not have any boxers? So what do you have against boxers? I usually wear them with jeans with a pullover shirt that reveals the waistband all around, especially in the backside about 2 inches. Touche, buddy; you got me! :bath :bath :bath
SweatyAussie
04-12-2006, 01:37 PM
blacksocks, I somehow get the feeling you are bored with this poll. I wonder why you keep visiting the thread then.
I didn't start the poll, but in defence of the person who did, what is wrong with simply asking people? It could be that rather than ASSUMING a connection between underwear preference and sexuality, they were trying to get an idea of whether there is such a connection or not. Lots of people speculate about a connection, so I for one would be interested to know if it's true or not.
No, the results of this poll are not going to change your life, but you could say the same about most of the threads in this forum... they are not of world-shattering importance, they are just things that as underwear lovers we like to chat about. Sure beats watching reality TV in my opinion for entertainment value.
Why not start a non-idiotic poll of your own?
This is just such a weak, redundant poll that I wanted to help expose it for its crushing boredom factor. I'm certainly not wasting my energy on this thread any more as the idiocy level is just too high.
deusex
04-17-2006, 08:32 AM
The poll may have been worded wrong and I may not agree with stereotyping, but there's one thing you can't ignore - for such a "badly" constructed poll (or so it's been decided), there's now 4 pages of sometimes heated discussion. Isn't that what makes a message board interesting?
What's boring is when we all agree on something.
blacksocksuk
04-19-2006, 04:40 AM
blacksocks, I somehow get the feeling you are bored with this poll. I wonder why you keep visiting the thread then.
I keep visiting the thread (do two posts count as already getting BORED with it?) as I subscribe to new posts via email and also as people keep reacting to what I've written, as in the case of your question. It's not a case of getting bored as opposing the structure of the thread. I agree that polls are just a bit of fun and it's much more interesting to argue the toss than sit bored in front of the tv but the fact that this "poll" has spawned 4 pages of reaction is less about the answer to the question than visitors' reactions as to its validity.
By the way, SweatyAussie, I have started a couple of non-important threads if you plough through the message board so I'm not that serious a guy, just one with an opinion which is what these things are all about.
SweatyAussie
04-19-2006, 09:08 AM
Great, I'm sure I shall come across them in due course!
I have a question for you, but it's not really on the topic of this thread so I
started a new one - "Fetishes for socks and other garments."
By the way, SweatyAussie, I have started a couple of non-important threads if you plough through the message board so I'm not that serious a guy, just one with an opinion which is what these things are all about.
CatBoy
05-28-2006, 04:06 AM
Underwear style = sexuality?
This poll is similar to others I have encountered over the years and whenever the question of whether someone is gay or straight because of what they wear, arises, the discussion often becomes heated and sensibilities are fractured. It is the way of debate and whilst we are all entitled to our own opinions and to air them, we should not allow ourselves to become upset by the responses from those who disagree with our point of view. Discussion, argument and yes, disagreement are the tools by which we move ourselves forward in understanding other people. However, in my view, it is impossible to determine anyone's sexuality/sexual preference, based on what they like to wear, be that clothing or jewellery.
I remember when the wearing of earrings became popular for men. It was said that a ring worn in the left ear meant the guy was straight and in the right, gay. This was in the time when men, if they wore them at all limited themselves to one stud. Now, it is common to see men wearing multiple rings in both ears. Based on that earlier assumption, what on earth does that imply? That they are all bisexual? I think not. It means nothing more than the guy likes to wear jewellery in his ears. The same applies to the choice of underwear or swimwear.
Personally, I do not wear earrings, mainly because I am not into piercing my body. However, I do wear cock rings and apart from the ring on my finger, I have another one on a toe on my right foot. I also wear thongs and g-strings most of the time. I say most of the time because; there are occasions when I wear full back underwear. (This is for the practical reason of warmth because I am outside for much of a working day and have a lower back condition that is exacerbated by cold.) But when I do wear full backs, they have to be close fitting because I dislike the feeling of being "cluttered" under my jeans or trousers. I also happen to think that a VPL is rather unattractive, be that on a man or a woman, but that is another issue.
For swimwear, I have never worn anything larger than briefs and prefer thongs or g-strings. I would never think about wearing, let alone buying, baggy board/long shorts. In my opinion, one needs very well developed calf muscles to get away with wearing those to avoid the impression that one is being supported by a couple of rather sad twigs.
So, given all of this detail, where does that leave me in the gay/straight debate? I have straight friends who wear the smaller styles of underwear and swimwear and I have gay friends to wear the opposite.
I suspect that most of you reading this will think, "oh yes, he's got to be gay."
Well my dears, you would be right but my choice of clothing is not a determining factor in whether I am gay or not or, for that matter the other way around.
I know a young, straight man who takes longer in the bathroom applying lotions and goodness knows what else, for far, far longer than I. He also wears well fitting clothes, which are always immaculate. He is a young man who takes pride in his appearance and likes to look good. It makes him feel good about himself and in the end, that is what it is all about.
The notion that a type of dress style can indicate sexuality has always been a non sequitur and unless we in the gay community, all suddenly develop the habit of wearing pink triangles on our backs, will always be so. But I cannot deny that it all makes for an interesting discussion even if it will never reach a definitive conclusion.
Lovehom
09-01-2006, 03:51 PM
These days I mostly wear briefs, bikini or deeper, white, coloured, patterned or whaterver. Sometimes I like to wear hipsters or boxer briefs, depends on the weather and activity.
This summer I have worn Strings a lot :cool: , I was put off by a couple of cheap G-strings some years ago (bloody agony :( ) but Hom are fantastic, especially Plume, Megeve and Sports :D .
I used to wear boxers a lot (not exclusively), but they just don't feel right now.
I discovered French briefs by Mariner and Eminence in my 20's they were a relevation in comfort, most British briefs are too flat in the pouch. Are Mariner still available? All mine wore out and I threw them away, I would like some more for nostalgia, as they used to be so good (access both sides :) )
I am pretty much straight, though I was a bit gay when younger, I don't want a gay relationship today (I have a G.F.) :) .
benbanan
09-03-2006, 01:38 AM
wear jocks/thongs and am straight
Do not like loose boxers at all. slips and briefs are good. thongs and strings are refreshingly cool and make me feel good - jocks ok for sport and feeling cool too.
depeche
09-12-2006, 09:59 AM
its all about the novelty underwear! :) seems this area is something we should concentrate on
The Bondsman
12-13-2006, 01:36 AM
its all about the novelty underwear! :) seems this area is something we should concentrate on
Hmmmmm, ...that depends if you want a guy who removes your pants to crack up in hysterical laughter....
Probably NOT the mood one wishes to induce prior to an "encounter".
I'd prefer silent (or even expressed) admiration! :D :D :D
"Novelty Underwear" to me always looks like it might have come in a Xmas cracker, or was sold at one of those "sex-aid" girlie hens-night parties!
SweatyAussie
12-13-2006, 05:17 AM
its all about the novelty underwear! :) seems this area is something we should concentrate on
Hmmm, this poll thread certainly has legs!
Re "novelty" underwear, do you mean boxers with amusing writing, eg. risque jokes such as "Contents may vary in size"? If so, I do think some of these are rather clever, and they are the only possible reason why I would EVER wear boxers. Doing a reality check though, what is the point? They are not going to be seen in public - they may well be seen in private, but in those situations I would hope the other person and I have better things to do than read what's written on ech other's undies (though admittedly it would provide the excuse for a good perve).
The fact is, the style of undies that I prefer would not even have room to have my real (first) name printed on them - and it's only got 3 letters!
ballucanb
12-13-2006, 06:15 PM
In hot weather, I don't wear no undies, as soon as that weather comes the undies are history.
AZTanDan
12-13-2006, 09:00 PM
Ah yes, this subject has taken a few turns. Personally I find the comic, joke, novelty, whatever you want to call them underwear pointless as well. I'm with bondsman on this one. The underwear should compliment the wearer, not detract from him.
The Bondsman
12-14-2006, 02:41 AM
In hot weather, I don't wear no undies, as soon as that weather comes the undies are history.
Kinda makes further discussion of the subject somewhat redundant, ...no? :confused:
MrDave
02-09-2007, 07:26 PM
Straight guy here, new to the site. I prefer bikini briefs and jockstraps, but I also wear regular briefs, boxer briefs and boxers on occasion.
dirtyunderware
04-25-2007, 06:50 PM
i just like a feel of a jock
jmark
04-27-2007, 10:46 PM
i just like a feel of a jock
Jockstraps just feel good. I really like how they hold my balls I think more than anything! Plus they really do a good job keepin the boners from showing in my pants.
SweatyAussie
04-28-2007, 03:24 PM
I like a nice warm pussy also. I used to have a cat of my own, he was great company.
I have not the slightest interest in cunts though.
Ah, yes! A few words do make the story. :hump
I am totally into this and love to masturbate. Therefor, I LOVE zee cock! :p
That said, a nice, warm pussy is a blanket that I love as well. :)
The Bondsman
04-28-2007, 07:53 PM
I have not the slightest interest in cunts though.
T'is pity, SweatyAussie, ...for there are so many of them....... ;)
sharako
05-28-2007, 09:34 PM
ya know some of us are switches and wear everything having a other category helps^^
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