Lance Armstrong, et al

[superdoc]

Praytell, what do the cyclists in the Tour de France wear for support? I have watched some of the racing. Front views provide a well endowed cyclist and the side views do not provide underwear, jock lines. Does anyone know the answer?

[Onan]

They wear padded cycling shorts. It is really thrilling:

http://www.epinions.com/bike-review-1408-4AEFF59A-3A59E471-prod3

[pjUK]

As Onan says, the shorts are padded at the front, to stop chafing I believe.

Nothing else is worn with them, and sometimes if some of the poor sods have an accident and end up sliding along the ground, their shorts are ripped and they get up and carry on with half their arse hanging out !!!

Anyway, slightly off topic, you really have to bow down to that guy, Lance, he's one hell of a sportsman, no, actually, considering what he's been through, one hell of a guy !!

[johseb2]

Yes I think the whole point of those padded lycra cycling shorts is that you are not meant to wear anything else under them. How hot is that?!

[WP69]

The best part is when they cross the line and sit upright on the saddle. Then you see some wonderful outlines, especially if they keep pedalling which makes their packages move about. As Onan says, it's thrilling.

[superdoc]

OK, but suppose a cyclist has to piss. What does he do then. Piss on the run? Some of those rides are long ones. Can anyone answer?

[deusex]

Just did a google on pissing and Tour de France...here's what came up..

Au Naturel--
When riders stop off the back of the pack to take a leak in the woods. During crucial stages pissing is done on the bike, but when the pack is tooling along slowly riders will stop. At this point Gerry from Radio Tour will announce riders are taking, l'au naturel. (See also Radio Tour.)

kinda hot!

[Onan]

In Flanders there are numerous cycle races. Riders simply pull the front of their shorts down and piss at the side while riding. You sometimes see it on television. I have seen it myself with lots of people around. Nobody ever speaks about it. It is considered quite normal, although Flemish are very prudish.

[superdoc]

Well, now I won't feel so bad when I am mowing my acreage on a riding mower in just my white briefs and piss on the run, so to speak. If I stop, I lose valuable time, so I let go while mowing. When I finish the grass, I turn the garden hose on me to rinse out the odor, etc., find a nice cold cola and sit outside and admire my mowing job. I could pretend that I am Lance Armstrong, peddaling away.

[skimpybrfs]

Hey Guys ... sorry I didn't reply before, but to answer your question, nothing is worn underneath. The shorts are a nylon/lycra blend with an absorbant chamois pad to wick away moisture and prevent chaffing, therefore, nothing is meant to be worn underneath, although you may find one or two riders wearing a microfiber compression shorts underneath. Personally I have always found it to feel awkward without at least something there for that extra support so I wear a Y-back thong under mine. I can ride for distances of 75 - 80 miles with plenty of comfort. As for peeing on the run, I have yet to see that on any of our local rides, but I would hate to be the one at the end of paceline when that occurred.

[AZTanDan]

I've tried jocks, and thongs. Outside of holding your equipment in place, they really don't help. The problem is the angle of the bike seat, the rider, and any seams. Adding the wrong undergear can be quite uncomfortable. I have also tried the Microfiber undershorts. They are sexy as hell by themselves, but cause the short to slide around. Bottom line, buy the cycle short 1 to 2 sizes smaller, and wear nothin underneath. The short stays put, massages the thighs, and the padding makes for a comfortable ride. As for pissing, the previous entries are right on. If you have the time great, if not, then on the run. One note here though, if your in a real sprint, your body is producing so much persperation that you really don't need to piss that often. A valuable side note also, all the sweating makes for a really nice smelling crotch when the shorts come off! :blowme

[The Bondsman]

There is some VERY scary research coming out here with regards to bike-riding, that would seem to make the choice of underwear the least of the problems facing cyclists.
Apparently the constant pressure on the perineum of male cyclists has a devastating effect on the erectile tissue, resulting in a huge proportion of cyclists suffering erectile dysfunctyion, ...i.e. impotence, i.e. permanent soft-on. :eek: :eek: :eek:
There has been all sorts of efforts to re-design the seat of the bike (and the clothing), to allow the root of the penis to be protected from taking all the punishment, but apparently the problem is becoming very wide spread.
In fact one well known doctor who actually conducted the research states in his report that "there are only TWO types of cyclists, ......those who ARE already impotent. and those who will BECOME impotent"!!!!
Now guys, this is SERIOUS stuff! While bike-riding may be excellent exercise and enjoyable, it certainly makes you wonder just how much men are prepared to give up for their sport.
Give up getting erections? Forget it!
And it didn't seem to matter just what guys wore under their sweaty lycras, ....the result was from the intense pressure placed on the spongy tissue in the perineum that caused the permanent damage.
Now before you all race to post that A/ your dick is fine, and B/ you never have any problems getting hard, I suggest you read further about the nasty little surprise that could very well await you in the near future. Scary!!!
It's a subject that many guys are loathe to admit, but the very high world-wide preponderance of erectile problems being reported by cyclists would certainly have me more worried about that bicycle seat than just what I will wear under my lycra stretch pants..
Sorry to bring up such a "dark" topic, but I do think that to be fore-warned is to be fore-armed.
Can't speak for others, but there are some things I am just NOT prepared to give up for my sport. :hump

[AZTanDan]

WOW! I ride quite a bit, maybe three times a week. I personally haven't experienced any problems, but then again, I swapped out my hard leather saddle for a gelflex saddle right after I got my bike. Before writing this I went out to look at the saddle, and it seems to have a larger amount of gel right where the perenium would rest. Couple that with some well made shorts(I only wear Hind), and I think I'm alright. Was there any indication in the articles regarding how often these men rode, and the duration of their ride? I know that the gelflex saddle is made differently for men and women, so obviously someone is aware of the need for extra padding in the right places.

[Onan]

There is some VERY scary research coming out here with regards to bike-riding, that would seem to make the choice of underwear the least of the problems facing cyclists.
Apparently the constant pressure on the perineum of male cyclists has a devastating effect on the erectile tissue, resulting in a huge proportion of cyclists suffering erectile dysfunctyion, ...i.e. impotence, i.e. permanent soft-on. :eek: :eek: :eek:
There has been all sorts of efforts to re-design the seat of the bike (and the clothing), to allow the root of the penis to be protected from taking all the punishment, but apparently the problem is becoming very wide spread.
In fact one well known doctor who actually conducted the research states in his report that "there are only TWO types of cyclists, ......those who ARE already impotent. and those who will BECOME impotent"!!!!
Now guys, this is SERIOUS stuff! While bike-riding may be excellent exercise and enjoyable, it certainly makes you wonder just how much men are prepared to give up for their sport.
Give up getting erections? Forget it!
And it didn't seem to matter just what guys wore under their sweaty lycras, ....the result was from the intense pressure placed on the spongy tissue in the perineum that caused the permanent damage.
Now before you all race to post that A/ your dick is fine, and B/ you never have any problems getting hard, I suggest you read further about the nasty little surprise that could very well await you in the near future. Scary!!!
It's a subject that many guys are loathe to admit, but the very high world-wide preponderance of erectile problems being reported by cyclists would certainly have me more worried about that bicycle seat than just what I will wear under my lycra stretch pants..
Sorry to bring up such a "dark" topic, but I do think that to be fore-warned is to be fore-armed.
Can't speak for others, but there are some things I am just NOT prepared to give up for my sport. :hump




To me the perineum is one of the most fascinating spots of the male body, just between balls and arsehole. A very sensitive place. I am always fascinated to see the narrow piece of some underwear fabric covering it. Some say it could have some sensitivity alike the prostate. It is a fascinating place although nobody seems to pay much attention to it.

[Onan]

Besides when you have a hard on, you can actually feel your perineum is kind of hard too, as if you have a second penis beginning at your balls and of which the cock head would be your arsehole, a kind of inner penis. You even can become very aware of your inner penis when you push your erection down. In case there is no erection and erection is wanted, some advice some pressure on the perineum. Perineum and penis are very much linked anyway. A really fascinating spot.

[JohnH]

In fact, this has long been a concern, and has resulted in newer styles of saddles. For example, at my gym, management completely replaced all of their life cycles with newer models which have saddles which do not directly implicate the perineum (which I agree, is absolutely one of my favorite body parts, too!). As for me, I'm spending more time on the free weights, and get my cardio in the pool.

[The Bondsman]

Besides when you have a hard on, you can actually feel your perineum is kind of hard too, as if you have a second penis beginning at your balls and of which the cock head would be your arsehole,
Onan, what you are actually feeling is of course not a second penis but the actual root of your normal penis. It's structure travels far back beyond what you can see on the outside in front. It goes all the way back behind your balls and almost to your rectum. (So we can all add a few inches to our "measurements" LOL!!!)
You have already noticed that it gets hard when you have an erection, ...this is because it's all part of the one shaft.
It's this area that gets damaged during bike riding and the spongy erectile tissue does NOT repair itself, so your are stuck with any damage for life.
And Guys, ....sorry to report the Docs were not all that impressed with the fancy seats that have either holes or gel either. They said that men were still placing FAR too much weight on an area of the body that was never designed to take any weight at all. They noted considerable damage in guys that considered themselves only "week-end riders", ...i.e. those that only rode infrequently.
They did say that the only way to safely protect your perineum AND ride a bike was to remain standing on the pedals at all times!
Great idea, ....but how long could you keep THAT up out on the road. Perhaps in the gym you could do it, ....but it would be way too tiring for competitive riders, ....who certainly had the worst cases of impotence.
I was surprised to hear there were degrees, ....I would have thought it would either stand up or not, but there were a lot of reports of less firmness in the erections than what the guys were used to previously.
Frankly, like you JohnH, I look elsewhere to do my cardio, ........I am just not even risking that which gives me (and at least one other, I hope), so much pleasure in life.

[Onan]

First about pissing, although it is not at all good news. Charly Gaul, the 1958 Tour winner recently died at 73. He was also called "Monsieur Pipi". because he lost the 1957-Giro when he stopped short before the finnish to piss. Everybody saw him peeing. He would better have pissed on the side while reaching the finnish.


Second. As Bondsman says, a few inches more to our measurement would be nice. In fact we should measure from the asshole. That would be correct and at least the point of departure would be certain. At present there sometimes is some uncertainty about the point of departure. Although men of all animals seem to be endowed with the biggest penis of them all at least in proportion (to correct the absence of a bone in the penis as some scientists seem to think; I guess you know the story), a few more inches are more than welcome. "Root of the penis" sounds like poetry in my ears. It is much better than my totally stupid idea about 2 penisses (although word goes there are men with 2 - all 2 in front of course - , like some have 3 balls, but extremely rare: only 9 men with 3 balls who had to have a physical for world war II). "Root of the penis" is real poetry. Don't we have to go back to our roots now and then? And the word is extremely appropriate since that is where we actually come from.

Ride a bike and remain standing on the pedals is called "rouler en danseuse" in French. A very good and more than poetic expression since those asses go left-right, left-right, left-right,... in the most poetic way you can imagine: the most magic danse you will ever see. Once I saw a whole peloton "en danseuse" on television, seen from behind (the right angle) and I heart the reporter say: "Oh, watch that. That's beautiful."

[SweatyAussie]

Nobody pays much attention to it? Speak for yourself!
I never yet found the guy who does not love to have that area tickled. Some don't realise how sensitive that spot is until they get the treatment.

If you get the chance, try teasing a guy on this spot with a feather, or a little soft-bristled brush. Especially if you can do it without telling them in addvance - some of them just about scream.

To me the perineum is one of the most fascinating spots of the male body, just between balls and arsehole. A very sensitive place. I am always fascinated to see the narrow piece of some underwear fabric covering it. Some say it could have some sensitivity alike the prostate. It is a fascinating place although nobody seems to pay much attention to it.

[SweatyAussie]

I went shopping for a bike last summer, and I notice that the manufacturers are at last getting serious about "anatomic saddle". For some time many saddles have carried a groove up the centre to accommodate the perineum, but the newer ones now have a groove that is actually big enough.
My guess is that the reason it has taken so long is that the manufacturers were reluctant to be so "in your face" about the male anatomy. Let's face it, it's very obvious, they may as well put a little sign saying "The root of your dick goes here"!

Regarding bike shorts, I have had a few of the padded variety, but I have now mostly gone back to plain cotton or nylon sports shorts (not too tight) with briefs or speedos underneath. The padded shorts tend to get rather unpleasantly sticky after a long ride in hot weather.

Despite the fact that I love wearing thongs, they are totally unsuitable for the bike. I discovered this one evening cycling to and from the beach. The things were cutting into my arsecrack. In desperation I removed my shorts (the road was dark and deserted), removed the thong and put the shorts back on. This was somewhat more comfortable, though still not the greatest.