Gay/str8

[briefs]

I am new to this site, great and interesting stuff all the way guys!!

Is this a mostly gay guys site, or are there a number of people here that just appreciate the men in their underwear. I am a brief man and am tryingt oget hold of a camera to add my own image to proceedings.

Just thought that I would ask the question and post something online.....


;)

Breifs

[deusex]

Hey! Welcome to the board and sites.

While I'm gay, I don't consider this a gay or straight site, just a site for guys with an underwear fetish. Everyone's welcome and encouraged to contribute.

So...hurry, and get that camera!

[Jock's away]

I stumbled across this site by accident as I have a real fetish about underwear, myself in and other men/youths in theirs.

How this started I don't know but I cannot help buying or spying on other guys in theirs.

I am not openly gay but I enjoy "brief" encounters with like minded guys.

[Hilprinmor]

Originally posted by Jock's away
How this started I don't know but I cannot help buying or spying on other guys in theirs.

I am not openly gay but I enjoy "brief" encounters with like minded guys.

I know how you feel, bro. From what I gather, the majority of us here on this board has a fetish with underwears.

I just like flipping through underwear catalogues (the Prevail catalogue is the best I've seen).

Do you guys get to see much at the workout gym's shower? I'm not a member of a gym or anything, but just wondering.

Hilprinmor

[skimpybrfs]

Well, I am not gay, but I do enjoy the sight of good looking guy in his underwear. Like deusex, I also don't consider this as a gay or straight site.

[The Bondsman]

Originally posted by skimpybrfs
Well, I am not gay, but I do enjoy the sight of good looking guy in his underwear.
Now skimpybrfs, please don't be offended, but I do find situations like yours intrigueing. Now when I look at a man in briefs, the feeling is definitely sexual, as would be expected, ...I'm gay. Seeing a man in briefs/underwear is obviously catering to a fetish I possess.
In your case, as you identify as str8, just what is it you see when looking at a man in his underwear? Now you couldn't be interested in the "bulge" factor, or even the a$$. Is it just the underwear? Wouldn't it look better, for you, on a women?
Is there absolutely NO sexual component to your fetish?
As I said before, please don't be offended as I am genuinely interested in str8 guys who have a men's underwear fetish, and just how this comes to be.
Fascinating!
Regards from THE BONDSMAN

[briefsboy8.5]

Guys, like most dont mind who is on here gay/str8 we all share same fetish. I am curious as to what str8 guys see in undies and again no offence meant in this curiosity.

I love watching guys at gym and will at times get the courage to lift there undies and pack them in my back to have a good sniff and wank later, or even better wear them and go back to work. ;)

[rebel_heart]

i'm gay though i'm not so open about my sexuality.

i don't think i really have that fetish about undies but i sure do like seeing beautiful things...hehehe...wish i could find a guy to chat with here...might as well have an erotic time....:D

[Unregistered]

I feel pretty wierd myself about having an "underwear fetish" I am a hetero male. But I have had an interest in wearing stylish underwear since, I guess, at puberty. I remember my not-much-older uncle laudering his underwear and hanging them out to dry. They were "bikini" style or string bikini. Some were see through, others a heavy mesh. All were very colorfull. Maybe this was the style for men at the time--late 80s. I would occsionally take them and wear them. Eventually, I'd buy them with my paper route money, but I had to hide them from my mom. She would take them and give tham to my sister. I was expected to wear "tighty whities" only. So she created a tabboo for me--made me feel that it was wrong to wear designer undies. Now it's seemingly out of style for an American hetero male in his late twenties. My wife doesn't mind, however. She even encouraged my first thong purchase. For me, it's about confidence, and motivation to hit the gym. I like to look at other men in their undies to compare myself. It makes me feel good when I think I would look better than some, and I get motivated when I see a body that is in better shape than mine. The human body is a beautiful thing. Clothing can accentuate certain features.

[White Thong]

Growing up the only underwear that you cold get was whate Y fronts. The greatest advance was coloured briefs and boy I was an early adopter. My first pair were orange and the were Jockey Skants. What made me want them? Who knows but it was the start of a love affair with under wear of all kinds. Gay/str8 who cares! It the underwear thats importamt

[Unregistered]

Gay, and I have had a thing for underwear my entire life. But it was not until I got on the Internet a few years ago that I found out there were others like me. I thought I was the only one. Thank goodness for underwear sights like this one. Here we get to enjoy underwear with all kinds of people from all over the world who I bet at one time thought they were the only one into underwear too.

I defiantly check out the guys in the locker room at the gym and I noticed straight guys checking out other guys too.

[Max]

I'll be the first to acknowledge that when I look at a man in his underwear, I'm interested in getting intimately acquainted with what's inside. But I can definitely see str8 guys looking too. Why is it that women are allowed to appreciate the female body as something beautiful, and something to be in awe of, but str8 guys feel bad, or wrong about feeling the same way about other guys? These bodies are gifts from above, and I say check out who you can, when you can, for whatever reason you choose.

[briefs2matt]

HI Mate, I was only a 12y.o. when I began to love and savour my wanks in my White Y's!! Then I had no idea if I was str8 or Gay!!! Yet at home Big Sis' had noticed how well thumbed the male underwear pages of our Male Order Catalogue were!!!
Now 20 years later I continue to enjoy wanking in my pants or even better Sex with another Lad just in our sweaty underpants!!!!

[Unregistered]

I consider myself bi only because I love to show off in or out of underwear. I've never done anything with another guy other than some hoot and holler when a frat bother of mine walks to the morning shower with a semi hardon

[Unregistered]

Straight. I think that we are all curious and like to compare ourselves to others. I notice men checking me out in the locker room and yes I have checked out some of them. I admire men who have incredibly muscular bodies but I am not interested in having any sexual contact with them. For the most part, we all generally look the same. Cut or uncut the differences are minor. Yet there is still an urge to look at the guy across the locker room to see if he has anything better than you.

[Unregistered]

Exactly, I think everyone puts "to much" into it if you (considering yourself straight) enjoys seeing a nice cock whether it is in a public shower or in pornography. Everyone likes a compliment. Once the doctor giving me a physical told me I had something not many men have.

[nutnuzzler]

I consider myself bi only because I love to show off in or out of underwear. I've never done anything with another guy other than some hoot and holler when a frat bother of mine walks to the morning shower with a semi hardon

Well, you've got an audience here for what you want to show. Post pictures for us all or let me take some. :)

[skimpybrfs]

Gay or straight .... quite honestly, I feel like there are way too many labels placed upon us. Although I classified myself as straight in a prior reply, I guess I could honestly say that I am at least curious. What can I say other than I have a major underwear fetish and very curious what the other guy is wearing. I'm also a bit of an exhibitionist, but that doesn't mean I want to have sex with another guy. I just enjoy underwear just like the rest of you guys, no matter what you do behind closed doors. :D

[billys1]

i'm not gay or straight, i'm bi. i could happily and oh so quicly have sex with guys but not have any interest in an on going relaqtionship, you know the man womn type, i also wantg the man woman type relationship, but sex--- so so.

where does that put me or what does it make me????????

billys1
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HAPPY HOLIDAYS :-)

[timuk]

Hi billys1. I think you are like lots of other guys that I have come across, mainly in chatrooms and on these sort of sites. We are happily married but enjoy underwear and also sex with guys. In many cases the latter is not very easy to obtain, so the sites are our source of release!

[billys1]

timuk,

I just wish i understood it all better. if you have any insites write me, o k??

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[tom]

An interesting topic to reopen.

Hello Billy1, fancy seeing you here and such a long way from my blog - I enjoy your comments keep posting :)

And, while I'm here also let me say hello to timuK.. we haven't chatted lately;)

Why am I such a dirty sod :rolleyes:

[The Bondsman]

Once the doctor giving me a physical told me I had something not many men have.
Ohhh, ...definitely sounds very serious! Is there a cure? Have you recovered? :D

[MarkD]

If you like sex with both guys and girls, your bi.

If you like sex with JUST girls, your str8.

If you like sex with JUST guys, your gay.

Seems simple to me, no? And I firmly believe a person can be BI, regardless of what some have said, especially on another wonderful site. ;)

My 2 cents

[billys1]

Mark , The Bondsman & Tom

hi guys, how are you all doing. i live in Southern California, USA. Where are your respective locations so i can know what time you might be posting?

Tom, i wish it was that clear cut an easy to figure out. just last night i really enjoyed the closeness of my wife as we made love, other times i would rather be having sex with a man. (no one in particular, just indiscriminate perhaps promiscuously, i don't know, but definitely not personal love).

Bondsman, you always look great and are encouraging.

Mark always good to keep in touch and if i remember correctly, thanks for the complement.

OH YES! I believe this is a subject that needs a lot of discussion, open and honest dialog between mature males with mature minds.

What is the opinion of the rest of this bloging family. We are all brothers here, and were are are all on an equal basis . Lets keep this HONEST and all to often closeted subject out in the sunlight of open and honest discussion.

Does anyone believe that the topic deserves its very own thread ?


take care guys and write soon, O. K.?

billys1 :confused: :p ;) :confused:

[MarkD]

I'm in Florida, central part, not too far from Tampa, not too far from Orlando.
As far as the compliment Billy1....not sure it was me, but your welcome. I tried to look at your pics, but dont see any.

Anyway, have a great day, night, and weekend guys.

[The Bondsman]

Hi there billys1, ....I am in Australia, so am probably posting while you are sleeping. I do sense some confusion and sexual disorientation in your posts. Don't be too sudden to equate all gay sex with promiscuity and opportunism. It certainly CAN be, but exactly the same may be said of may heterosexual relationships.
Men, and I do mean ALL men here, tend to be far easier, and MUCH quicker to arouse, and can often be more detached about the sexual act than many women, who can tend to look for meaning and that oft repeated mantra, "commitment", behind every sexual encounter.
First thing to realise is that you are not alone.
Probably what you are experiencing is a good dose of the old fantasy, ....as many str8 guys do, even if they won't admit it. I have str8 friends who will often ask me "how it feels" to have sex with a guy, or if I think they could be "gay" because they like their arses played with during sex, or if I have any special techniques I could pass on to their girlfriends to improve their abilities at oral sex! (I loved that last one!) He even offered to "let me do it to him to show him how good it can be"!
Just as there are str8s who wonder, there are gay guys who have certainly tried out sex with a woman, and because it's not primarily where their sexuality lies, they do not continue with the pursuit.
Now I'm certainly not one to try and encourage marital infidelity, BUT it would seem that perhaps you yourself have already made up a secret part of your mind to try a little experimentation.
Warning: do everything to make sure your experience is satisfying AND safe. Don't be led into something your are not comfortable with, or will torture yourself with regrets about for the rest of your life.
First of all, make it with someone you actually "like", or have some sexual attraction to. "Quickies" in dark smelly toilets, or anonymous gropings in pitch dark back-rooms are probably NOT going to provide you with what you have imagined.
A dick is not a dick is not a dick, ...if your grasp my meaning.
You may find it's not to your taste, (no pun intended), and all your curiosity will have been answered, but also be aware that a very close female friend of mine who has a great deal of experience in these matters, always maintains of men that "once they've had the dick, they never come back!"
I believe her,.... she's a very attractive women, and has had a few relationships with guys who have experimented on the other side of the fence.
I know that there are many guys here who identify as bi-sexual, ...and I leave it to them to work out just where on the scale they sit, and offer you further advice.
Me? I am totally gay, and deleriously happy with that situation, .....and have no desire to ever engage in the congress of the cow with a labia-laden lady .....ever!
(And I do, from time to time, certainly get offers!)
This alone probably rules me out as offering any advice of worth, other than to say do be sure what is is that you wish for, ....you just might get it!

[Bronski]

Im new to site and gay, I dont think my sexuality has anything to do with me enjoying underwear, for me, I like the image / look of a guy in his socks / underwear just like some people like trains, I like briefs / socks. Maybe I classed as a briefs Spotter LOL!

I too have caught the odd glimpse / eye from a guy in the gym, just like some have caught me looking at them, I guess its human nature to wonder what other men are like and simply look!

Its amazing just how many guys be it gay or str8 enjoy being looked at by another guy, more so at the gym I go to. I know their is lots of married men their, and they aint shy of showing the lads what their packing and I aint complaining LOL!

[tom]

Hello Billys1 .. again, we must stop meeting like this :blowme:

Now I am delighted that Bondsman has joined in as he talketh no crap and has really brought out the subject of sexuallity, which somehow seems to be touching a nerve with me at the moment - who knows, maybe it's not just me either ?

I hope this post is not too heavy!!

If anybody cares to read my posts they will know I describe myself as straight, but my question is really, what is straight? Does it mean having a loving family with kids - in which case I fit the bill or, does it mean in addition to that I can also have an interest in male underwear and what goes in 'em? In my case, it's certainly the latter and which developed when I was about eleven or thereabouts and if I am brutally honest, sometimes my feelings in that direction have been (and still are occasssionally) very strong. But, I have never consumated my desires other than when I was school kid and that was only a mutal wank.

God, am I being too honest? So Billys1 you are not alone in being a bit confused I have been for years!! But Billys1 are you also like me in that part of me wants to experience something but, my other self tells me if I do go down that road I will destroy my world as I know it. Shit, it's a problem I have to deal with, although in my heart of hearts I know I just can't let myself do it however much my body tells me it wants to.

I'm sure that Bondsman has it cock on, when he talks about all men wanting some form gay experience at some stage in their life and of course the killer for many is being brave to admit it.

His other very valid point about having some tacky (pun) groping session in a toilet with some unkown is well made and I would I think be guarrantteed to put off any latent thoughts of every doing it again. So, should I for whatever suddenly take the plunge and want to do it, it would have to be with somebody who I thought I at least knew moderately well from cyberspace - I know we are not all what we seem, but trust plays a big part in it .. watch out, Bondsman I'm booking me ticket :eek:

So here I am, so grateful for the internet and tremendous sites like this where I can air my views amongst some understanding folks of both puersuasions. And, I'm sure that writing my dreadful blog is in itself therapy to my muddled mind, plus with the msn-cam and the occassional undies swop it does make me think I'm partway there without risking blowing everything apart that is close to me, besides which I feel have also made a few genuine cyber friends which really nice and allows these otherwise taboo subjects to be aired.

What thinks you?

[The Bondsman]

.. watch out, Bondsman I'm booking me ticket :eek:
My couch is always available for "consultations" tom, .......and I work for briefs!
.. So here I am, so grateful for the internet and tremendous sites like this where I can air my views amongst some understanding folks of both persuasions.
I can certainly agree with you here. Before I started visiting sites such as this, ...and some previous similarly devoted incarnations, I actually thought I was weird having a thing about guys in their underwear! :shocked
Who on earth would prefer to see a guy in his briefs rather than totally naked? Who would find total nudity MUCH less stimulating than being clothed in briefs? Who would prefer to have sex wearing underwear than being naked?
Who on earth would get turned on massively by just at a little sighting of a guys briefs above his pants, or watch and re-watch the two-second glimpse in the porn vid over and over again where you see the guy in his briefs (oh-so-damn-briefly!) , rather than rushing to the fully naked pumping? :confused:
ME, that's who! :D And as far as I knew previously, no one else did this, or had these "weird" desires.

Sites with discussion forums like this, although primarily devoted to "underwear" allow a great many of us to "confess" our deep secret feelings and longings to others, and that can be SO DAMN THERAPEUTIC!
Look what it's done for me! :eek: :eek: :eek:
OK,...OK, bad example, but seriously, I rate the benefits here FAR better than some very expensive sessions with a shrink!
I'm even "out" (underwear wise) to all my friends now, ....and that's a huge step forward, from previously being almost ashamed of my/our fetish.
The best thing to realise is that THERE ARE SO MANY OF US! :D

[billys1]

[Bondsman]My couch is always available for "consultations" tom, .......and I work for briefs!

I can certainly agree with you here. Before I started visiting sites such as this, ...and some previous similarly devoted incarnations, I actually thought I was weird having a thing about guys in their underwear! :shocked
Who on earth would prefer to see a guy in his briefs rather than totally naked? Who would find total nudity MUCH less stimulating than being clothed in briefs? Who would prefer to have sex wearing underwear than being naked?
Who on earth would get turned on massively by just at a little sighting of a guys briefs above his pants, or watch and re-watch the two-second glimpse in the porn vid over and over again where you see the guy in his briefs (oh-so-damn-briefly!) , rather than rushing to the fully naked pumping? :confused:
ME, that's who! :D And as far as I knew previously, no one else did this, or had these "weird" desires.

Sites with discussion forums like this, although primarily devoted to "underwear" allow a great many of us to "confess" our deep secret feelings and longings to others, and that can be SO DAMN THERAPEUTIC!
Look what it's done for me! :eek: :eek: :eek:
OK,...OK, bad example, but seriously, I rate the benefits here FAR better than some very expensive sessions with a shrink!
I'm even "out" (underwear wise) to all my friends now, ....and that's a huge step forward, from previously being almost ashamed of my/our fetish.
The best thing to realise is that THERE ARE SO MANY OF US! :D[/QUOTE]

Bondsman,
these insights and confessions are sometimes so painful to admit, EVEN TO OURSELVES" let alone to to entire community and we take the chance of some other person or persons seeing what we dread them, or anyone else seeing. It takes courage and guts to admit some things. I admire and respect all who post here as i know you do also.


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[tom]

I really do thank you both, I don't know why it's suddenly got to me after all thas time? Maybe I'm on the change ;) I don't know, but it's a very strange situation to be in and like alot of things is something that you would never thought would happen to you - in my case it's keeping my opposing two lives seperate, I'm sure I still can and I'm not a basket case, but this is a great opportunity to air things.

Looks to me from Billys1's comments that it's happening to him is pretty much in the same way as me and he is right in saying that it is a very hard thing to do to, to admit it to the world at large as we are doing here.

Bondsman you have, at the risk of making you head swell ;) pitched it dead right and somehow I suspect you have been a little way down this, or a similar road yourself which is why you can relate to our little worries - interestingly, I wonder how many other straight types who frequent this site have similar thoughts or worries locked away deep down?

Finally Mr B, it's great pity that you are so far away, otherwise I would save up all my undies in part-payment and make that appointment to cum and sit on your cumsulting couch.. :blowme:

Thanks, serious bit over I shall revert to my normal self :eek:

[The Bondsman]

Bondsman you have, at the risk of making you head swell ;) pitched it dead right and somehow I suspect you have been a little way down this, or a similar road yourself which is why you can relate to our little worries - interestingly, I wonder how many other straight types who frequent this site have similar thoughts or worries locked away deep down?
You are MOST welcome tom, .....but I do have to clear up one teensy thing.
The Bondsman has NEVER been down the hetero road, .......nor even tempted!
There just ain't a str8 bone in my body, ......although, when it's put that way, perhaps I should say there have.....oh, well, that's another story! :D ;)

[tom]

Quite.

Oh, I do realise there are no straight bones, however maybe once there was something in a parrallel universe ;)

[billys1]

You are MOST welcome tom, .....but I do have to clear up one teensy thing.
The Bondsman has NEVER been down the hetero road, .......nor even tempted!
There just ain't a str8 bone in my body, ......although, when it's put that way, perhaps I should say there have.....oh, well, that's another story! :D ;)
Well Mr B We have all come this far, why stop here. Tell us all please, As for me, cum on a guys cock or thru his underpants or even :blowme if he came in his pants (OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH) arouses me.
So don't stop. Get on the couch with subject in hand and tell us, Okay? :blowme

[rignon]

I'm straight and only fairly recently realized that men can be aesthetically pleasing to look at. For me it began when I joined a fitness center to get back into shape after a knee injury. There are almost always way more men, and I would find myself looking appreciating how hard they had to work to look like they do.

After some time, I found myself visiting porn for women sites because they often focus more on the men and erotic poses rather than up close sex acts. I don't recall how I came across this site, but it is excellent. I love seeing nice bodies with from fitting briefs that hilight the curves and bulges and that some things are left to the imagination. Not to say, I don't enjoy or look at nude images, its just there is something about skimpy attire that I find more interesting.

Now, I have never been with a man and not sure how I would react if I was given the choice. Perhaps under the right circumstances I would, but to be honest, I have never met a man in real life that turned me on sexually. I am definitely more open to the possibility than I was just a couple of years ago, but it would have to be someone I was very comfortable with. Whether it's men or women, I can't give myself if I don't know them well. I can't and won't do the anonymous or one night stand thing with anyone, it's just against my nature.

[tom]

Rignon, wellcome to the confused section, we'll soon be able to have our very own little forum if more straight members (pun there) keep popping up ;)

[billys1]

I'm straight and only fairly recently realized that men can be aesthetically pleasing to look at. For me it began when I joined a fitness center to get back into shape after a knee injury. There are almost always way more men, and I would find myself looking appreciating how hard they had to work to look like they do.

After some time, I found myself visiting porn for women sites because they often focus more on the men and erotic poses rather than up close sex acts. I don't recall how I came across this site, but it is excellent. I love seeing nice bodies with from fitting briefs that hi-light the curves and bulges and that some things are left to the imagination. Not to say, I don't enjoy or look at nude images, its just there is something about skimpy attire that I find more interesting.

Now, I have never been with a man and not sure how I would react if I was given the choice. Perhaps under the right circumstances I would, but to be honest, I have never met a man in real life that turned me on sexually. I am definitely more open to the possibility than I was just a couple of years ago, but it would have to be someone I was very comfortable with. Whether it's men or women, I can't give myself if I don't know them well. I can't and won't do the anonymous or one night stand thing with anyone, it's just against my nature.


Welcome to confusion central guy. We are all left in a kind of a denial fog.

Best advice I can give you is to get over the standard of not being able to have at least one 1 night stand even if it is to find out what being with a man is like for you, it's different for all of us. I don't mean to advise "unsafe" behaviors. NO ! We all have enough on our plates without going over the edge and doing something we will regret for the rest of our lives. This isn't pre 1980's unfortunately.

But I am saying that you need to get over the intimacy first aspect if you ever want to find out what it is like to be "with" a man. Pick a healthy looking guy, one with a package that you gotta have and talk to him long enough to find out if he is healthy and interested in going to bed. Then do it. Don't be afraid, be cautious. How else will you learn your preferences.

And above all, relax, enjoy yourself, do not rush anything, it should be to good for you to want to rush anything. Feel it. Enjoy it. Examine what you want and enjoy and would like to experiment with and go for it. You might just find out that this is what is meant for you.

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[shorty74]

billys1: You make it sound so simple! And maybe you're right, but the treshold is just a bit to high for me. (Unfortunately)

[tom]

I have to agree with shorty74 that it's not that simple, but then things like this never are. To me, doing something now is the equivalent (if not worse, morally) of being unfaithful in the marriage and as much as I may physcially think "good idea" I know I just can't let myself do it.

However, in hindsight, having my time again and knowing what I now know about myself, I'm damn sure I would have given it a try -or two, or three even!

But, for some old fashioned reasons which I can't quite understand, just as now, I couldn't go down that road after marriage. Does that sound silly, in todays society, well that's me I guess :rolleyes:

This is a bloody good thread, I think it has made a few of us think hard about why and where we stand on this issue. We ain't the first and I'm sure we ain't going to be the last either!

[rignon]

Rignon, wellcome to the confused section, we'll soon be able to have our very own little forum if more straight members (pun there) keep popping up ;)

Thanks tom, a forum sounds good because it helps knowing that there are others out there like me.

[rignon]

Thanks for the comments billys1, it is definitely something to consider. I just need to decide if it is something I want to leave in my fantasy life or if is something I want to do in real life. Right now, I'm content with it being just a fantasy. Of course, a couple of years ago, I never would have thought I would visit a site like this regularly, much less sign up and post on it, so who knows?

[tom]

Out of interest I just took a look at the gay\sraight poll and we are defintely not alone guys :)

As of today the figures are
Gay 397
Sr8 245
Bi 269
?? 49

So maybe if we teamed up as pairs of "straights" we could inspect each undies in the safe knowledge we were "straight"! Although, being technically "straight" we wouldn't know what to do then, would we ;)

In any event, is the term "straight" a total missnomer here anyway with our very obvious interest in each others underwear and (let's face it) equipement ?

Should there be a new term to describe us, "curved" possibly :moon:

[The Bondsman]

Should there be a new term to describe us, "curved" possibly :moon:
I loved this tom!
Actually it's certainly better than "bent"!
Out here, we have the bizarre phenomena of a support group who call themselves "Men who have sex with Men", but absolutely and categorically DENY they are in any way "gay"! :shocked

Now I don't know what the problem is here, ....a terror of being labelled "gay", an affront to their "masculinity", just plain self-denial or what, ....BUT I would simplify their whole concept and say if you are having and enjoying sex with men on a regular basis and keep going back for more then, guess what? You are VERY probably "gay", like it or not mate! Why such a big deal? :confused:
You know my line of thinking, ...if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, ...then guess what? It's probably a damn duck, and NOT an ostrich....
BTW, we are NOT just talking about a mutual "watch each other wank" here, but full-on, all the way M to M sex!
I swear I will never understand the way str8(?) men's brains are wired.
I don' even get the whole "tit" thing! :eek: :D :confused:

[billys1]

I loved this tom!
Actually it's certainly better than "bent"!
Out here, we have the bizarre phenomena of a support group who call themselves "Men who have sex with Men", but absolutely and categorically DENY they are in any way "gay"! :shocked

Now I don't know what the problem is here, ....a terror of being labelled "gay", an affront to their "masculinity", just plain self-denial or what, ....BUT I would simplify their whole concept and say if you are having and enjoying sex with men on a regular basis and keep going back for more then, guess what? You are VERY probably "gay", like it or not mate! Why such a big deal? :confused:
You know my line of thinking, ...if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, ...then guess what? It's probably a damn duck, and NOT an ostrich....
BTW, we are NOT just talking about a mutual "watch each other wank" here, but full-on, all the way M to M sex!
I swear I will never understand the way str8(?) men's brains are wired.
I don' even get the whole "tit" thing! :eek: :D :confused:

i agree's wit ya mr b.
if the term for a hetro person, not just men but women also, is straight then hey, what does that do to the rest of humanity that are different shades of gray, bent? Naaah, I choose to use the term, if we must use terms and labels at all, of interesting. :blowme
Ya, interesting. It would be a dull world indeed if there weren't more than one shade, right? :moon
And thats the way I believe it should be, interesting, veery interesting!!!!
:blowme :hump :moon :eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :p

[rignon]

I can certainly agree with you here. Before I started visiting sites such as this, ...and some previous similarly devoted incarnations, I actually thought I was weird having a thing about guys in their underwear! :shocked
Who on earth would prefer to see a guy in his briefs rather than totally naked? Who would find total nudity MUCH less stimulating than being clothed in briefs? Who would prefer to have sex wearing underwear than being naked?
Who on earth would get turned on massively by just at a little sighting of a guys briefs above his pants, or watch and re-watch the two-second glimpse in the porn vid over and over again where you see the guy in his briefs (oh-so-damn-briefly!) , rather than rushing to the fully naked pumping? :confused:
ME, that's who! :D And as far as I knew previously, no one else did this, or had these "weird" desires.

Sites with discussion forums like this, although primarily devoted to "underwear" allow a great many of us to "confess" our deep secret feelings and longings to others, and that can be SO DAMN THERAPEUTIC!
Look what it's done for me! :eek: :eek: :eek:
OK,...OK, bad example, but seriously, I rate the benefits here FAR better than some very expensive sessions with a shrink!
I'm even "out" (underwear wise) to all my friends now, ....and that's a huge step forward, from previously being almost ashamed of my/our fetish.
The best thing to realise is that THERE ARE SO MANY OF US! :D

Very true. For me I liken it to a present. While it's on a table, under a tree or whatever, it is there for everyone to enjoy. Anyone can appreciate the nice wrapping and the care it took to prepare it properly. Once the wrapping is removed it becomes more "intimate". You want to take it and keep it for yourself. It officially becomes yours and it goes with you so you enjoy it on a completely different level than before. Don't know if this makes any sense or not. It sounded better when I thought it, I swear! :hump

[The Bondsman]

Probably better than my analogy rignon.
I like to think of the whole underwear thing as being rather like a salad.
Now you can eat your salad perfectly well just plain raw or "naked", ....it's a bit ordinary and uninspiring, but it's still OK I guess, ....however if you add a little "dressing", suddenly what was plain and expected takes on a whole new and exciting sensation. And there are literally hundreds of "dressings" you can use, .....and bound to be one to suit your personal taste! And the "salad" is still there to be eaten, BUT now it's actually fun to do!
Give me mine "dressed" any day!
I can truly say that I always find total nudity much less stimulating than when the subject is wearing underwear.

[billys1]

Probably better than my analogy rignon.
I like to think of the whole underwear thing as being rather like a salad.
Now you can eat your salad perfectly well just plain raw or "naked", ....it's a bit ordinary and uninspiring, but it's still OK I guess, ....however if you add a little "dressing", suddenly what was plain and expected takes on a whole new and exciting sensation. And there are literally hundreds of "dressings" you can use, .....and bound to be one to suit your personal taste! And the "salad" is still there to be eaten, BUT now it's actually fun to do!
Give me mine "dressed" any day!
I can truly say that I always find total nudity much less stimulating than when the subject is wearing underwear.

Ahhhh yeah Mr B.,

The salad is still there to be eaten. adding a little mystery to the story only improves the plot line, right? But it is the plot line that we buy the book for. Gotta have that plot line or the books of no interest at all.

Gettin that first peek and feel, taste etc of what the undies are hiding, grrr. :blowme :moon

Gives a guy an idea that things are worth going on for.

billys1 :p :eek: :hump :eek: :moon :blowme

[SweatyAussie]

I agree with everything Bondsman has said... I think. Let you know for sure in a month's time... if I finish reading it by then.

I think MarkD put it best though in his post of 01-Jan-2007. It really is that simple. The complications come when someone knows full well that they are attracted to certain people but has some sort of Catholic guilt complex about it, and denies it, to himself and others (No particular offence meant to Catholics, I am sure you all understand this is just a figure of speech.)

I have no problem with anyone who is gay, straight, bi or anywhere on the continuum. I DO have a problem with someone saying they are straight when they are not.

There may be some excuse for not admitting your sexual orientation to others, if you are in a society or work environment where you have to worry about harrassment or persecution. There is no excuse for not admitting it to yourself, or to fellow members on an anonymous site such as this.

****** N.B. The above comment was not directed at Billys1 or Tom or anyone in particular, I am not accusing anyone here of being dishonest, this is just a general comment.
:) :) :) :) :) :)
(Enough smileys? That should do it.)

[The Bondsman]

I agree with everything Bondsman has said... I think. Let you know for sure in a month's time... if I finish reading it by then.
Don't worry SweatyAussie, ...there are some wonderful speed-reading courses available that will soon have you not only reading much quicker, (it's a bit slow when you have to sound out the syllables), but you'll find your comprehension improves too! :D Then you'll definitely know if you agree with what I've said.
I am NOT a follower of the Mies van de Rohe school, ...you know, the old "less is more" edict!
To me, less is a "bore", but I reckon old Mies could never have been talking about money! AND I bet he didn't stick to his adage when sending out his bills for his services either, but I digress! :D
I have no problem with anyone who is gay, straight, bi or anywhere on the continuum. I DO have a problem with someone saying they are straight when they are not.
Oh me too SweatyAussie!
But you get these people who insist on sleeping repeatedly with guys, time and time again, and yet fervently insist they are str8! Do they think chicks have dicks?
What's irritating is not that they are trying to fool me, ...but the bizarre and creepy self-delusion that they want to make me part of!
Why? Any more in de-nial and we'd be in that Egyptian river! And that's a VERY BAD country to be gay in right now!
(Message to all "str8" guys. Sure you are allowed ONE "homosexual try-out", and we'll put it down to curiosity and you can go on with your Str8 status intact; if not your virginity.....but go back for more and we'll welcome you into the Friends of Dorothy with open arms, ....and probably more!)
Of course we'll get the protests about "why do we have to label everything anyway?" ...which as we all know is really just code for "I'm so very, VERY gay!"

[SweatyAussie]

I am NOT a follower of the Mies van de Rohe school, ...you know, the old "less is more" edict!
To me, less is a "bore", but I reckon old Mies could never have been talking about money!
I always assumed he was talking about the amount of material in one's underpants!

Of course we'll get the protests about "why do we have to label everything anyway?" ...which as we all know is really just code for "I'm so very, VERY gay!"
Exactly. If someone doesn't want to use a label, that's fine; but if they use one, they need to use the correct one.

[The Bondsman]

If someone doesn't want to use a label, that's fine; but if they use one, they need to use the correct one.
My thoughts exactly!
You wouldn't want your new thong labelled a "small" if it was really a "large" now would you?

[SweatyAussie]

My thoughts exactly!
You wouldn't want your new thong labelled a "small" if it was really a "large" now would you?
Now that really WOULD be a bummer.

[rignon]

(Message to all "str8" guys. Sure you are allowed ONE "homosexual try-out", and we'll put it down to curiosity and you can go on with your Str8 status intact; if not your virginity.....but go back for more and we'll welcome you into the Friends of Dorothy with open arms, ....and probably more!)


Speaking personally, if I ever do take advatage of my free try-out and then keep going back for more, I'll will try on some new labels and see which one sticks. :D

[thinstrap]

I enjoy this site because to widly varying degrees everyone here enjoys they way they look in their various undergear (and like showing it off as well). I got into underwear fabrics and cuts that were pretty sexy as a young teen, and love this stuff even more today, as does my wife. I'm straight but like looking at this stuff and imagining that when I order or get the same gear I'll look just as good as the guy showing it off.
Thanks all and 'keep it up'.

[tom]

I think we have said it all really, what's more we also all seem to agree - particularly when it comes to the straight man insisting he is totally straight yet we all know he has an interest in the Bondsman's salad trolley....;)

Well, I'll just stick within my own terminology and say I'm a bit curved :eek: and although I have never tested the springing on the said salad trolley there are times when I would like to jump on it, but for all the reasons I have been through before know I can't let myself.

Maybe, one day if the wheels start falling off I will be brave enough to help put 'em back on...!

Yours sincerley
All Mixed Up Uk ;)

[lancia]

str8, gay, or bi who really cares im courious to all things sexy men women cars music engineering. who knows what happens in each of us to make us look at anothers parts wether its covered by underwear or not. :eek: love who you are and other around you!!

[rignon]

Out of interest I just took a look at the gay\sraight poll and we are defintely not alone guys :)

As of today the figures are
Gay 397
Sr8 245
Bi 269
?? 49




I also wonder how many women are represented in the poll above. I'm sure at least a couple have found there way here.

[The Bondsman]

I also wonder how many women are represented in the poll above. I'm sure at least a couple have found there way here.
AND I wonder how many people are telling the TRUTH???? :confused:

[ca_boomer]

Hum, well to be honest, I think that depends. I am married, love my wife, and kids, would not do anything to jeperdize that. Am I attracted to males, yes. Have I had my experiences, yes. Do I enjoy looking at your photos and taking mine own, yes. Does my wife know, yes. Would I met someone here for something more, NO. Would I if I was not married or seeing someone, hell yea. Do I want to know, no. where was that couch?

[tom]

Hum, well to be honest, I think that depends. I am married, love my wife, and kids, would not do anything to jeperdize that. Am I attracted to males, yes. Have I had my experiences, yes. Do I enjoy looking at your photos and taking mine own, yes. Does my wife know, yes. Would I met someone here for something more, NO. Would I if I was not married or seeing someone, hell yea. Do I want to know, no. where was that couch?


I think, we ought to share the same couch (nothing intended!) as it looks very much like we are on a pretty similar wavelength - and, I would guess we are not the only ones ;)

But, isn't great to be able to share all these inner thoughts with the great bunch of guys here :)

[SweatyAussie]

Guys, like most dont mind who is on here gay/str8 we all share same fetish. I am curious as to what str8 guys see in undies and again no offence meant in this curiosity.

I love watching guys at gym and will at times get the courage to lift there undies and pack them in my back to have a good sniff and wank later, or even better wear them and go back to work. ;)
I don't have a fetish for stealing though, or for guys who do. No doubt you find it "hot", but I dare say the other guy does not appreciate finding his gear stolen - or "lifted", as you cutely refer to it. :mad:

[andre2700]

i really wouldnt consider this a sexual-based site
i'm bi, i love pussy, but i loving sucking guys fat cocks

[The Bondsman]

i really wouldnt consider this a sexual-based site
i'm bi, i love pussy, but i loving sucking guys fat cocks
Look, I'm very fond of cats too, ....but I certainly wouldn't trade sucking cock for another pet......:D

[Firerie Thong]

Im now confused, im married have been for over 25yrs and have been wearing thongs and sexy underwear for most of that and yes i do have a fetish for underwear, str8, gay, or bi, im not sure i have only had hetro sex but have fantasised. i love this site

[hangright]

I am gay,i love men,but have never fooled around,have played with men but not one has ever gotton me on back,in other words...virgin.
I have more straight male friends,and hang out with them moreso than anyone else.
Yes,i have been approached by straight men before,wanting to see what it was like....they have to find someone else,not interested in being a play thing.
I think we can all gay or straight,admire a guy in nice briefs,we all have nearly the same thing,and some briefs look good on some but not on others.

I can be turned on by straight men,but prefere being friends with them,if they are not married or divorced,that can make a difference,in that a friendship can go further.
There is one or two straight guys on this site(british)if they became single again one day,i would be interested in them.

SO,gay,straight,bi ,we can all enjoy looking at another guy in his underwear.

[The Bondsman]

SO,gay,straight,bi ,we can all enjoy looking at another guy in his underwear.
Oh thank god for that! I feel I can rest easy now......:D

[andre2700]

i'm bi. i love getting pussy from chicks, but i also like getting eaten out and sucking on other guys