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Turgon

04-29-2007, 09:02 PM

I have a question I want to ask and didnt know where to go other than here, I've been reading posts here for awhile but this is my first time post.

I'm 23 and consider myself a straight guy. Recently, I have become very interested in bulges, other mens dicks and underwear. The thought of actually meeting (no offense to you guys, I like coming here) being sexual with another man totally grosses me out, but I love looking, it gets me off (big time).

Does this make me gay? or bi? I'm curious. Sorry if I sound new to the game or come off as offensive, I apologize in advance I just dont know how to word it and new to the game.

The Bondsman

04-29-2007, 10:42 PM

Recently, I have become very interested in bulges, other mens dicks and underwear. The thought of actually meeting (no offense to you guys, I like coming here) being sexual with another man totally grosses me out, but I love looking, it gets me off (big time).
Since you apologise so nicely I'll ignore the fact that you would be apparently "grossed out" by actually fulfilling your very own fantasy.
Voyeurism is no new fetish to be sure, ....and you may simply fall into that category. In our strange western culture, boys are virtually denied opportunity, or social occasions to see other men's dicks. There is also a social stigma attached to any acts of simple curiosity with regard to this area.
Ever noticed the "discrete" sideways glance down a guy beside you at the urinal often performs?
It's not necessarily a gay act, but often just a curiosity to know what the other guy's got and how do I compare?
Many men have just no idea how their penile dimensions stack up against other men, .....there just isn't the opportunity, ...and they are likely to be
labelled "gay" if caught looking. And they want to know!
In short, you may just be "curious", ...but I do have a deep suspicion you may have also discovered you are the teensiest bit "bisexual", ...or at least open enough to come to terms with it.
Do you wank to male orientated pornography? Do you fantasize about other men during masturbation?
There are cases, ..and I'm not saying this necessarily applies to you, ....where guys get to quite advanced ages before actually realising that they are gay. Even after marriage/kids etc. and the whole deal, it does happen. (In fact I would think it's probably BECAUSE of the forementioned drama! ;) )
It's not the end of the world you know.
You can try it, ...... it may not be as "gross" as you imagine.
I have stated here before that I think EVERYONE should experience the act of sucking a dick, ...and that includes otherwise str8 guys too!
Many gay guys have tried the other side of the fence once or twice, but revert to their natural orientation easily enough.
Think about it.

dayne

04-29-2007, 10:45 PM

Does it make you anything? Why not just go with it before you start labeling yourself. See where life takes you. In time you will have your answer.

rignon

04-30-2007, 08:57 PM

bostonspdo

05-01-2007, 07:51 AM

I understand where you are coming from because about 10 years ago or so I noticed that men could be physically appealing. Occasionally I would visit sites like this and others that had pictures of hot guys and even spent time in gay chat rooms. I talked to a few people and considered taking it to the next level and actually having a gay experience/relationship.

I came close to trying, but decided that was not anything I really wanted to do. Sure, I like seeing an attractive guy with a nice bulge or ass. But that does not mean I want to have sex with him. I still haven't ruled it out, and maybe if some day I might meet the a guy I would be interested in, but so far, that has not happened.

It is generally ok for women to find other women attractive. I don't see why men can't notice a nice looking guy.

You seem to have a very good idea of where you are sexually and your only problem is worrying that you don't fit into one of the pigeon holes society wants to put you in. Just because you like looking at men doesn't mean you're gay even though that's what the common idea is. Even having sex with a man doesn't mean you're gay, just that you're open to new experiences. I'm gay but that doesn't mean I never find women physically attractive. People just need to relax and be themselves.

tom

05-01-2007, 09:24 AM

Turgon, wellcum to the confused club :) let me assure you are not the only one in that state of mind and never will be!

I made a few similar posts about this subject a while back and concluded that too much thought on the subject got me even more confused haha! So now I just accept that I seem to have a straight family life and this, my secret life, is consigned to anonymity (almost!) of the internet and really great forums like this on where you can discuss things rationally with the likes of Mr B and others ;)

slythering

05-01-2007, 01:40 PM

I have to sympathize with you friend. But don't get grossed out by your feelings.

That smacks of prejudice-probably inculcated in you when you were growing up-I know. Been there. Get smart. Start thinking.

When I was at school it was the done thing to take this piss out of fags and bum bandits. Anyone caught sneaking a look at a dick was a poof and a queer! As was anyone who didn't "conform"

I started buying sexy undies when I was at Uni, admiring the models wearing them in the brochure and wanking over them. But I still had girlfriends and yes got laid whenever I could. Finally realised that these feeling are normal and that I am bisexual. It has taken 20 years to get there. Don't kill yourself about it. Enjoy it.

So read what the Bondsman has said. There speaks wisdom.

tom

05-01-2007, 04:11 PM

Slythering... on the whole I agree and think in general I have now accepted my lot. However, what I was trying to say was that not being 'out' per se (other than here on the net for example) with these bi feelings and a family it sometimes does seem a mite confusing, I guess it has to be really !! :)

slythering

05-01-2007, 06:06 PM

You said it. I'm not out and never will be! Love the kids too much!

The Bondsman

05-01-2007, 08:16 PM

It's never too late!
Think I may have mentioned here previously my Dearest Boyf's Dad lived the "happily married" life for years and fathered and raised SEVEN kids. Then, with all kids flown the nest and upon turning 60, decided to come out and live his life for himself.
Remember, these were different and less enlightened times.....
The family were a bit thrown at first, but soon got over it and realised he'd been a good dad, and raised them well.

Dad did get to enjoy his experiences, ...but of course the opportunities were not as numerous for him at his age as they would have been when he was younger.
Ain't "age" a bitch? :mad:
Still, he did do it and after the initial dust settled, everyone seemed pretty OK with it. :cool:
Sadly, he's gone now, ...probably to that big gay dance-party in the sky, ....but at least he didn't die full of regrets and fantasies of "what might have been"!
Carpe diem guys!

whtbfs

05-02-2007, 12:40 AM

Slythering said "So read what the Bondsman has said. There speaks wisdom."
I couldn't agree more and also some one mentioned labelling. Why any label? To label me is to demean me. I don't need a label and I don't fit in any pidgeon hole. I am me, you are you and that should be enough for the world.

It isn't necessary to broadcast your interests to the world and that is one of the wonderful things about this forum. No one here will judge you or your interests. So welcome and enjoy. :)

Ogden

05-02-2007, 09:56 PM

First, I have to agree that the lable is not an issue. It's there for the sake of communication. If it doesn't help, don't use it.

Second, sexuality can be both a matter of attraction and of practice. If you prefer garden salads by taste, and go with that generally, you would probably say you're a vegetarian. But eating a burger when you feel like it wouldn't be "cheating" or somehow violating who you are. Similarly, you can enjoy being with women, and still explore your own sexuality - whether that's a matter of understanding your own appeal to others via an externalized view of other men, or trying new things - without worrying about what it means. In my opinion, it simply means you're open-minded, which a lot of people think they are, but aren't.

Third, you probably wouldn't hook up with someone just because she's a woman. So it should come as absolutely no surprise if the idea of hooking up with someone you can't relate to because he's a man doesn't appeal to you. I went through something similar - I was attracted to guys but was still looking for a girl. I found a guy I liked, got to know him, etc, and went from there. It takes time to get used to thinking in new ways, the best advice is simply not to worry about it.

Bruno

05-03-2007, 12:47 AM

I concur with several who caution against making definitive statement about what one's future will entail.
My own development into being gay was a very long process beginning with simply accepting that I could enjoy sexual arousal and satisfying myself without guilt. As the years passed I realized that I would like to touch another male and eventually dared to try that. Experimenting with other aspects of sexuality was a gradual process. The evolution into a mature sexual, loving relationship with another man transpired over many years. This took place within a historical context very different from today. I think the prevailing social disapproval was a very significant factor; I don't know whether it is any easier today with many gay role models around.

kslice75

02-08-2009, 10:56 AM

I'm 23 and consider myself a straight guy. Recently, I have become very interested in bulges, other mens dicks and underwear. The thought of actually meeting (no offense to you guys, I like coming here) being sexual with another man totally grosses me out, but I love looking, it gets me off (big time).

Turgon, I know exactly what you're talking about! :cool:

I'm the same way - I remember as early as age 13 I liked looking at other boys in their underwear - it was the only thing that made gym class fun. And this was in the late 80s / early 90s just before the whole boxer fad began, if you know what I mean :) A whole locker room full of boys in white briefs. That was heaven.

I would want to be near them, touch them, feel them, even sleep in the same bed, but the thought of actual penetration, sucking, etc. would turn me off. I would think that I love to see them in underwear but NOT nude. Although I loved seeing their bodies I had no desire to see their dick, and was actually a little turned off by it. It was very confusing. Even today when I see a picture or video of a guy's dick or ejaculating or cum shots I say, "Eeww, gross!!" and turn it off as quickly as possible. Maybe I was just in denial or being prudish or whatever. But for a while I was denying my sexuality and thought that the fact that I was turned off by the thought of sex with them meant that I wasn't gay. But I didn't think of sex with girls either, so eventually I relented.

I still have no explanation. I definitely think of guys far more than girls (no one is ever 100% gay or 100% straight) and want to be with them more, and I talk a good game about wanting to get inside them or whatever but when push comes to shove (pun intended) I would chicken out. Then I thought, maybe ALL guys (gay or straight) are like that. That we're all more bark than bite. Also strange is I'm extremely picky about guys that I'd like to get physical with: Young/youthful - 18 to 30, smooth, not very hairy, slightly chubby or "fatty muscular". I'd say 80-90% of the guys that I see on any given day are those who I would not think about getting with. But those other 10-20% I'd do in a moment (or maybe I just think I would).

So I guess the only fair answer to your question, Turgon, is that there is no answer, at least not from me, but there are others like you out there. I don't think much about it, don't think much about committment, marriage/civil union or whatever. I just accept it for what it is. Yes it makes me gay, but not abnormal.

SweatyAussie

02-08-2009, 12:56 PM

I am not sure there is a name for the kind of thing Turgon describes. (I wonder if he still visits? The thread is nearly two years old.)

"Homosexual" or "gay" (which as far as I am concerned are synonymous) does not really suit, because he says he has no interest in having sex with males. Still the interest is of a sexual nature, it's dicks we are talking about after all.

My suspicions are that when he says he doesn't want sex, he has a particular kind of sexual activity in mind. Perhaps he has no wish to fuck or be fucked, for example, but wouldn't mind groping another guy through underwear or being groped. He may be surprised to know that there are lots of gay men who have no interest in getting up another guy's arse, or having another up their own. That's just my theory, only he can confirm that.

Cheeky Red5

02-09-2009, 05:52 PM

As long as it's not illegal, not hurting any one and feels good go with it!

Turgon

02-10-2009, 01:38 PM

No, I'm still here. I've only posted twice, this will be 3 times. I've come to realize I like it. Not so much curious anymore, I just love seeing a guy in white old fashioned briefs and enjoy his bulge. I still linger, read everything and enjoy it. I couldn't actually perform with another guy, so thats why I just wack off here. I like it.

Bikinilover

02-20-2009, 07:04 PM

I like it too. I love getting off looking at cock, jockstraps, thongs, speedos and underwear and I have no real desire to actually do anything with another guy. Its just fantasy. I also love gay porn. My wife and I actually watch it together. Two clean fit guys fucking and sucking is just hot. I especially like it when there is fooling around in some skimpy briefs too!

t4gs

02-23-2009, 02:56 PM

Hey does your wife know that you visited this site???? Also I know you said you and your wife watch gay porn together....but does She know how you feel and what your thinking while watching?? I know you think about what it you might me like sharing another guy with your wife.... ;) come on. I hope you post some pics for us.

Bikinilover

03-13-2009, 04:14 PM

Phillybriefs

05-20-2009, 11:04 AM

I believe that there is still so much stigma and shame attached to being gay that many men will live in denial of their own true feelings. If they can somehow lessen or maginalize those feelings with contrary thoughts, then they are not really gay. "I like anal sex, but I never kiss my male partners so I'm not really gay. My buddy and I jack off together, but that's just playing around. I find men very attractive, but oh, I like women too," and so forth.

One has to wonder if there weren't so much societal negativity towards homosexuality, would men with homosexual tendencies be less constrained about acting upon their feelings or at least stop making excuses for them?

So for Turgon, I'd say if looking at bulging tighty whities gets you all warm and chubby and you'd rather look at that than a pair of bouncing boobies, maybe, just maybe you have your answer.

That's my two bits for what it's worth.

SweatyAussie

05-20-2009, 02:00 PM

I have already breached the subject of a threesome with her and she is not too comfortable with that. She doesn't want to do it MMF or FFM. I would try it, but not with out her. Its fun to watch, and she says she is the only one thats allowed allowed to do me in the ass.
Huh???

I just reread this - don't know how I missed this before...

Now I lay no claim to being the world's greatest expert on the concomitations of the female anatomy, but I confess to total confusion here. How does a woman "do you in the ass" (sic)? Unless by "do" you mean something entirely different from what's meant when we talk about a guy doing another guy up the arse?

Not to state the bleeding obvious, but a woman doesn't have a penis, so surely it can't be done. Please explain.

Phillybriefs

05-20-2009, 04:26 PM

SweatyAussie! I read that to mean he either lets her practice digital stimulation on him OR she has a strap on penis! Lots of lesbians do and I'm sure more than a few straight couples do also.

The Bondsman

05-21-2009, 02:22 AM

Not to state the bleeding obvious, but a woman doesn't have a penis, so surely it can't be done. Please explain.
SweatyAussie, ....please get up-to-date!
Are you not aware that the biggest growth area in hetero-porn vids at present is where the women puts on a strap on, ...and "does" the bloke up the rear!
Is there anything those perverts won't try to steal from us?:rolleyes:;):D:D

pnhmrk

05-21-2009, 03:25 AM

Are you not aware that the biggest growth area in hetero-porn vids at present is where the women puts on a strap on, ...and "does" the bloke up the rear!

I've got to ask! :confused: Why? :confused: What could the woman possibly get out of that activity? :confused:

deusex

05-21-2009, 06:59 AM

I've got to ask! :confused: Why? :confused: What could the woman possibly get out of that activity? :confused:

Isn't that obvious? Dominance over their man.

SweatyAussie

05-21-2009, 12:18 PM

SweatyAussie, ....please get up-to-date!
Are you not aware that the biggest growth area in hetero-porn vids at present is where the women puts on a strap on, ...and "does" the bloke up the rear!
Actually, I wasn't. :o
I continue to be astounded by 100%-gay Bondsman's vast knowledge of the heterosexual world and the dirty little games they get up to.:D:D:D

(straights, please take no offence, this is merely a tongue-in-cheek comment directed at Bondsy.:))

pnhmrk

05-21-2009, 02:34 PM

Isn't that obvious? Dominance over their man.

I'm not into the S&M scene. It wasn't obvious to me :shocked I would have thought that only a small percentage of women would be into that. I suppose that we are only talking about a small percentage.

To be honest I've thought more about hetro practices on this thread than I have for quite a while :rolleyes: I'm starting to feel slightly queasy so I think I'll drop the subject :moon

Bruno

05-21-2009, 05:15 PM

Sorry to disagree with you, Deusex, but I don't see a "top" as
necessarily representing dominance.
In hetero S&M circles it is probably a component and much gay porn
depicts a submissive, abused bottom.
But when both participants are sharing equally in the activity it can
be a truly loving experience.
I can't speculate what meaning it has for a male-female relationship and you may well be correct.

jack under

05-21-2009, 05:49 PM

The Bondsman

05-21-2009, 09:30 PM

I continue to be astounded by 100%-gay Bondsman's vast knowledge of the heterosexual world and the dirty little games they get up to.:D:D:D
(straights, please take no offence, this is merely a tongue-in-cheek comment directed at Bondsy.:))
Ahah! You gotta watch those devious over-populous str8s. They have a very nasty habit of stealing and adopting gay ideas, fashions and practices in all things, ....usually it's a cheaper version and about five years too late, ...but then pretending that they thought of it all along!
Straights, ...please feel very free to TAKE offence, this is NOT tongue-in-cheek....you KNOW you do this!:rolleyes::D:D

donnieboy1

06-28-2009, 08:00 AM

Have to say I found this thread very interesting. I can relate 2 a lot of the comments made by some of the earlier contributors and it is good to know u r not alone in having a str8 life but are fascinated by the male anatomy, and actually find men attractive...but r also 2 chicken and love family 2 much 2 do anything about it.

Don't mean 2 ramble on -just wanted to "connect" with others who clearly r confused like me.

Thanks

u_neek_sa

06-28-2009, 09:37 AM

I'd have to agree. This thread has been very interesting. I like that there are so many of us staight/confused guys here in this online forum.

donnieboy1

06-29-2009, 07:57 AM

I often wonder if it is the "confusion" and sense of forbidding that makes it all the more enticing. Speaking 4 myself, I can honestly say I didn't develop this "interest" until much later in life. I think the warning signs were there eg looking at guys in change rooms but I always put that down to curiosity...

Thinking back, I always fantasised about both men & women but didn't think anything of it (or at least I didn't admit to). Amazing to think I got thru puberty convinced i was completely str8 - I guess that is the power of societal conditioning - u just can't accept things that really should be plainly obvious.

Amazing...

The Bondsman

06-30-2009, 12:28 AM

A lot of blokes who are actually gay grow up with only str8 people around them, and just assume for many years that they too are str8, simply because they know no other.
Rather like a pet raised by humans from birth assumes itself to be human and not whatever it actually is.
Remember too, that often amongst str8 groups, anything gay is treated with extreme derision and scorn. This is NOT going to encourage any exploration in that area.
Sadly many of these gay men marry, simply because it's what the rest of their peer group do, (thereby ruining two lives), and really only discover the truth about themselves much later in life when contact, (often accidental), with the gay world occurs.
Suddenly it all makes sense to them, ...but for many, by that stage other people are involved, and so things just get sublimated, or even worse, a double life starts guaranteed to end in tragedy to all concerned...certainly not healthy for anyone.
Sad, sad, sad.
My Dearest Boyf's Father being a prime example.

donnieboy1

06-30-2009, 08:12 AM

Hey, Bondsman, what u r saying is so right - guess it is all a very sad reflection on our society & its so-called values. However, I am quite optimistic for future generations & the freedom they will have.

Back to now, though, & I am curious to know what u guys think re the internet's role in shaping confused men - excuse the lingo but I consider myself confused. My question is whether the internet encourages the gay side in closeted men, to an extent that was not possible b4, or whether it actually allows one to keep the closet door shut and fantasise "in private" - ie it offers an outlet for the gay fantasy.

Realise this is meant to be a fun site so sorry if I am boring u all...and it is a fun site.

The Bondsman

06-30-2009, 11:24 PM

Realise this is meant to be a fun site so sorry if I am boring u all...and it is a fun site.
Mate, ....DO NOT WORRY!
You don't know how much I enjoy posts that go past the "you look hot" mantra! Keep 'em coming! It can still be "fun" to discuss things here.
I am curious to know what u guys think re the internet's role in shaping confused men -
I too thought it would make things "easier" for young blokes to come to terms with their sexuality.
Damn it, ...I certainly didn't have any gay porn to look at, ...not even gay characters in soap-operas or movies when I was "growing up", ...and sorely in need of some wank material that conformed to my growing tastes.
However in truth I think kids struggle just as much as we did back then. Perhaps it's their own ideas of parental expectations?
The net can, of course, allow closeted or married gay men to have some sort of an outlet for their true feelings, but I think this will eventually lead to dissatisfaction with both the net and at home.
Sooner or later you are going to want to try it for real!
(See my theory that every man, whether gay or str8, should experience a cock in his mouth at least once!:blowme It's fun! And why should women have all the fun? To tell the truth they don't really enjoy it anyway so I'm told!:eek:)

I am just glad I moved from the small rural community where I grew up early enough to discover myriads of other gay men, ...or I too would probably have ended up married, ....and divorced by now.
The internet CAN be good for information, ....if the gay sites are NOT blocked by governmental agencies!:mad::mad::mad:

manfluff

07-01-2009, 08:39 AM

I've come to accept that human sexuality is fluid. I find myself wanking to straight porn sometimes. :O However, I don't think I'll ever have sex with a woman unless it was the end of the world or something like that. I think everyone had a little bit of both in them.

And I mean looking at another man's bulging underwear isn't a crime (yet!) I say you should go with what makes you feel good and not really worry about your sexual identity. This, of course is so much easier said than done because we all need to feel secure.

I think the OP is a genuine straight man with a bit of bicuriousity in him that's showing it's face right now. But who knows really? Only time will tell. It's fine if the thought of gay sex grosses him out a bit. Wouldn't you feel kind of weird trying to imagine yourself doing it with a woman?

donnieboy1

07-01-2009, 09:20 AM

I agree that sexuality must be a fluid thing - I am not even sure u r born one way or another. I only have to consider how I have evolved & changed and still continue to and I am well past puberty.

Similarly, I think that we are all on a continuum with 100% str8 at one end and 100% gay at the other but virtually no-one sits at either end. Because of this, I agree with Bondsman that while u r young and free, u should try to have as many different experiences as possible to ensure your own happiness. I'm not saying be a slut (unless that's your thing of course) but be open.

...and I also agree that women are not as keen on giving orally! I think blokes more readily go down on their partner (m or f) than women.

pnhmrk

07-09-2009, 02:55 AM

I certainly didn't have any gay porn to look at, ...not even gay characters in soap-operas or movies when I was "growing up", ...and sorely in need of some wank material that conformed to my growing tastes.

Surely there was the Australian equivalent of the Damart (Thermal Underwear and not flattering thermal underwear) catalogue to keep you amused? :hump

The Bondsman

07-09-2009, 06:32 AM

Surely there was the Australian equivalent of the Damart (Thermal Underwear and not flattering thermal underwear) catalogue to keep you amused? :hump
No, we didn't have that, but you are quite right about the catalogues. We did have mail order ones and even promotional ones from local stores. BOY did they get a "thumbing", ......I even had a scrapbook made up of all the men's underwear pages. Sure hated it when they just photographed the pack and didn't use models!:mad:
SO tame now by today's standards, ....but back then?
Did it for me, .......but I must say I would have liked some of the stuff that's around today!

donnieboy1

07-15-2009, 04:12 AM

No, we didn't have that, but you are quite right about the catalogues. We did have mail order ones and even promotional ones from local stores. BOY did they get a "thumbing", ......I even had a scrapbook made up of all the men's underwear pages. Sure hated it when they just photographed the pack and didn't use models!:mad:
SO tame now by today's standards, ....but back then?
Did it for me, .......but I must say I would have liked some of the stuff that's around today!

I wonder to what extent the catalogues with undies pics of yesteryear r responsible for why many of us are so keen on guys in undies...given the lack of available suitable male porn, many of us may have developed our tastes in men by looking at these catalogues as there really was nothing else to see...perhaps next generations with the internet and all the available eye-candy may not develop the fetish to such an extent. Wild theory, I know - but thought I'd see what you all think....

deusex

07-15-2009, 07:20 AM

I wonder to what extent the catalogues with undies pics of yesteryear r responsible for why many of us are so keen on guys in undies...

Not sure if you've noticed the Dennis Covey ads on my four blogs, but he was a photographer for International Male back in the 80s. When he approached me first about advertising on the sites and told me his background I thanked him on behalf of thousands of gay men for helping us all come out and giving us the visual stimuli we all needed at such an important time in our lives. :)

btw -You really should check out his life casts of men in (and out of) underwear and jocks:

http://www.coveyeditions.com/indexe.html

SweatyAussie

07-15-2009, 11:13 AM

Surely there was the Australian equivalent of the Damart (Thermal Underwear and not flattering thermal underwear) catalogue to keep you amused? :hump
We have Damart shops here, but I regard their stuff as just well made gear for cold weather rather than being particularly flattering.

In my case my early role models were not so much the underwear models in clothing catalogues but the guys in bodybuilding magazines, who always wore (and still do) the skimpiest briefs, simply because they need to show off as much as possible!

I expect the usual tirade of responses from guys about "muscle queens", "Over-development", blah blah blah, but I make no apology for saying that I always found many of those guys, both older and younger, attractive in an aesthetic way as well as a sexual way. It probably has something to do with the fact that as a youngster I was pretty unfit and overweight, and when I got to the stage of wanting to do something about it those models represented something for me to aspire to. Even though I never got to anything like competition standard, I have reason to be grateful for the inspiration those guys and the magazines provided.

Was my interest in the pictures sexual? Porbably - but that may be because in my case I tend to react (or not react) to the total person, rather than just noticing what a nice dick they have or whatever. I certainly got hard over those photos more than once.

The Bondsman

07-16-2009, 02:55 AM

SweatyAussie

07-16-2009, 03:04 AM

According to what I've seen of some vintage (60s/70s I think) magazines which were purporting to be "physique" mags, but in fact were gay-soft porn, all the models wore G-strings or what was called "posing pouches".
Could THIS have had anything to do with your growing up favouring the more minuscule undies etc?
Just a thought!
It's a distinct possibility.
Actually, although the garments were pretty miniscule, I thonk it was pretty rare for them to be as miniscule as a G-string - more likely what's now called a tanga. Nothing better for showing off the glute muscles. Mmmmm.

hangright

07-20-2009, 03:38 PM

do labels matter,i say not.if any of you whether straight gay bi look at a bulge and get excited,so what,you dont have to act on it.if married..have a night out ,go to a gay bar,see what you think,its not very different to a straight bar,just mostly guys relaxed in their own skin enjoying the company of other guys.if you get asked out...thats up to you what you do...but its a compliment to you that another man finds you attractive.i know alot of men who are married and are not out and may never come out,little flings here and there dont hurt anyone and may help you through life.

The Bondsman

07-20-2009, 09:39 PM

do labels matter,i say not.
No, ...but they sure help!
IF I happen to say to someone "I'm gay", they know exactly what I mean, ....and where they stand if they happen to be a woman.
It's simple, and it sure saves a helluva lot of beatin' round the bush and gettin' nowhere, yes?
Same with a bloke who says "I'm str8".
It politely draws a line of demarcation without being in any way rude, .....and you can then offer him your sincere condolences instead of wasting your very best pick-up lines....;)

The confusion comes when some blokes can't read their OWN label, ..... or try to wear too many different fashionable ones and confuse themselves......or even worse, have had the wrong one sewn on earlier in life!:eek::confused::confused:

little flings here and there dont hurt anyone and may help you through life.
Hmmm, ..."Oh what a web we start to weave, when first we practice to deceive"???
No good will come of this in the long run, I assure you. Do YOU like to be cheated on?
Remember, Man has a big head, and a little head, ...and only enough blood to run one at a time!:D:D

deusex

07-21-2009, 06:36 AM

Remember, Man has a big head, and a little head, ...and only enough blood to run one at a time!:D:D

What a great line!

I'm with you Bondsman, regardless of your label, cheating is wrong. At least have the decency to be honest with your partner/wive/boyfriend.

The Bondsman

07-21-2009, 06:58 PM

At least have the decency to be honest with your partner/wive/boyfriend.
And, above all, ....YOURSELF!

pnhmrk

07-22-2009, 02:43 AM

I'm with you Bondsman, regardless of your label, cheating is wrong. At least have the decency to be honest with your partner/wive/boyfriend.

I'm both with and against Bondsman :confused: If all the members of the partnership agree then there is nothing wrong with sexual (or any other kind) activity outside that partnership. However if one person in that partnership doesn't have enough faith in the others to allow them to say that they want to have experiences outside that partnership then there is something else amiss that needs fixing urgently. It's also important to know that the partnership will not be harmed by any talk about activities.

hangright

07-22-2009, 01:43 PM

What a great line!

I'm with you Bondsman, regardless of your label, cheating is wrong. At least have the decency to be honest with your partner/wive/boyfriend.

i am single,thought i would let you all know.i was not talking about myself,i would never cheat on a boyfriend.
i was merly talking about all the STRAIGHT guys who are married to women and play around with guys on the side.there are hundreds in each town across the world.

INTRIGADO

07-22-2009, 05:21 PM

it is about commitment.... i you are suppoused to be loyal... do it...

i am completely with The bondsman

hangright

07-25-2009, 09:46 PM

it is about commitment.... i you are suppoused to be loyal... do it...

i am completely with The bondsman

tell it to all the married guys who play the field.

The Bondsman

07-25-2009, 10:07 PM

i was merly talking about all the STRAIGHT guys who are married to women and play around with guys on the side.there are hundreds in each town across the world.
Just because there are lots of people who do it, doesn't somehow make it "right".
I know there are lots of married self-delusional str8???:mad: blokes doing the beat on the way home; ....going to "saunas" or other sex-on-premises venues. Not only are they fooling themselves about being str8, (str8 men do NOT actually have sex with other men!), but they may rationalise that it's not hurting anyone, ...but one thing's for sure, it will eventually.
There's one thing to be said for inviting trouble, ...it generally accepts!
IF you are talking about "couples" who have an "open" relationship, then what they will choose to put up with is of course, their business, and good luck to 'em. (They'll need it, .....I've not seen too many but they don't appear to be all that happy.) .
I thought you were talking about "flings", which if I understand the term correctly, is a short-term casual relationship on the side.
I cannot countenance the sneaking out and having it off and the subsequent lying that's involved. I think that's the worst, ...the lying and being played for a fool. That would hurt more than the actual act of the sex itself.
If there's a need for "a bit on the side" as they put it, then your relationship needs examining as to why this is so. Indeed, perhaps you are not suited to a relationship at all, or the one you're in.

INTRIGADO

07-26-2009, 11:30 AM

IF you are talking about "couples" who have an "open" relationship, then what they will choose to put up with is of course, their business, and good luck to 'em. (They'll need it, .....I've not seen too many but they don't appear to be all that happy.) .
I thought you were talking about "flings", which if I understand the term correctly, is a short-term casual relationship on the side.
I cannot countenance the sneaking out and having it off and the subsequent lying that's involved. I think that's the worst, ...the lying and being played for a fool. That would hurt more than the actual act of the sex itself.
If there's a need for "a bit on the side" as they put it, then your relationship needs examining as to why this is so. Indeed, perhaps you are not suited to a relationship at all, or the one you're in.

man i am completely agree with you... i haven't see them neither (open happy relations) one will be hurt soon or later.

the other, those who are married and have sex with man, i am not judging, but i will say, they shoul be courage enough to assume themself

hangright

08-02-2009, 05:12 PM

Just because there are lots of people who do it, doesn't somehow make it "right".
I know there are lots of married self-delusional str8???:mad: Indeed, perhaps you are not suited to a relationship at all, or the one you're in.

Let me make myself clear to anyone that does not understand ENGLISH.
I AM NOT in a relationship.
I may be looking now,as my father who i cared for has passed away.
I would be faithful to a man,as anyone in a relationship should.but having seen the way friends and familys relationships have gone,i may well not bother.it might not go wrong for me,but...
I am glad to see that guys on this site are faithfull,but please...dont ram it down my throat.. I AM NOT a slut,nor will i ever be.

The Bondsman

08-03-2009, 03:04 AM

;)I AM NOT a slut,nor will i ever be.
I don't believe we were discussing the concept of promiscuity at all here, ....rather the concept of "CHEATING" when in a relationship already. The choice to sleep with however many partners you like is a just personal one. It involves no one else but yourself, and if anyone gets hurt it's only yourself.
If it pleases you, then well and good.
However, I don't condone lying to what is supposed to be your partner, ...or even to yourself.
And I certainly don't believe any of us was trying to administer you an emetic......

hangright

08-04-2009, 06:37 AM

;)
I don't believe we were discussing the concept of promiscuity at all here, ....rather the concept of "CHEATING" when in a relationship already. The choice to sleep with however many partners you like is a just personal one. It involves no one else but yourself, and if anyone gets hurt it's only yourself.
If it pleases you, then well and good.
However, I don't condone lying to what is supposed to be your partner, ...or even to yourself.
And I certainly don't believe any of us was trying to administer you an emetic......

sorry bondsman,i had a migraine,a major one when i replied,i came over a tad strong,forgive me.

The Bondsman

08-04-2009, 10:34 PM

sorry bondsman,i had a migraine,a major one when i replied,i came over a tad strong,forgive me.
Nothing, ...absolutely nothing to forgive!
I was just trying, ......and probably fighting a losing battle, to drag this thread back on topic.
Now I know I am often the MAJOR offender here, but anyone wishing to write a thesis on "stream of consciousness" technique could examine the incredible ways our threads go off on diverse tangents at the slightest provocation.
Truly amazing, ....but one of the features I do so enjoy here.

pnhmrk

08-06-2009, 10:43 AM

I AM NOT a slut,nor will i ever be.

What's wrong with being a slut? :confused: (I have never cheated on my hubby and I don't believe he has on me but before I met him was another story :blowme)

hangright

08-06-2009, 01:52 PM

What's wrong with being a slut? :confused: (I have never cheated on my hubby and I don't believe he has on me but before I met him was another story :blowme)

funny enough,i had this conversation at work today,
if you fancy a bloke or a burd,and ask them out,have your way,and then ask someone else out the following week,
i was then asked if that made you a slut....i had no answer,so i said no.
this was meet with aproval.
i am still a bit lost,but suppose it is ok if you are single.:confused: