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deusex
10-16-2008, 02:32 PM
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With all the doom and gloom that both politicians and the media are spouting, our reaction is...

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The Bondsman
10-16-2008, 07:58 PM
JockstrapCentral.com is offerring free shipping in North America and discounted shipping everywhere else until October 23rd.
You will NEVER get a better deal than this guys, .....buy up big!

With all the doom and gloom that both politicians and the media are spouting, our reaction is...
No need to "Fuck the Economy" as your sign suggests, .....those Yank corporate cowboys have seen to THAT already! :mad: :mad: :mad:
They have even managed to fuck our Ozzie dollar here too along with their own peso! :mad:
And I was SO enjoying shopping on the net too!

SweatyAussie
10-17-2008, 02:56 PM
I love it! But tell me, is that genuinely a lair of underpants with that writing, or is it "Photoshopped"?

SweatyAussie
10-17-2008, 03:05 PM
I just answered my own question by clicking on the link.

Ummm... how do they get away with that? I'm assuming you could only buy "Dirty Fukker" online, as I don't think a store would be allowed to display the name, even misspelt that way.

deusex
10-17-2008, 04:00 PM
I'm sure it's not a brand you'll find at your local department store and even most online stores are probably too conservative to carry them, but we show nudity which most stores don't so having a jockstrap that almost says fuck is no big deal in my mind.

Fukker is really only one step beyond the UK French Connection clothing chain when they decided to become known as FCUK and have the logo in huge letters across their clothing.

Honestly, it's a bit gimmicky for me, but beyond the brand name, it's really a very comfortable basic cotton jockstrap.

As for the nudity thing on Jockstrap Central, we decided from the start that we weren't going to show gratuitous nudity, but we were going to show our products honestly and all on models. It was always one of my pet peeves when see-through underwear was always shown either pixelated, blurred or even worse, with solid fabric thong or jockstrap underneath, and even worser (grammatical error intentional) shown without a model flat on the floor.

Because of it, we've had some doors shut in our faces (Google and Yahoo paid adwords for example) because they deemed us to adult and "gay jockstrap" wasn't an adult key phrase but in my mind we won, as we're now one of the top three natural listings on google for most jockstrap related words.

Lastly, there's a gay french blog called Gayclic.com that just floors me. Maybe I'm just a bit to liberal a gay guy, but gay and sexuality go together so when a blog that covers gay film, photography and entertainment that of course alludes to sexuality with most of their posts turns down our $200 for a G-rated banner placement on their site because they deemed us too adult I just shake my head. Of course, that same day they had made a post telling everyone to go out and buy the movie Shortbus, which besides being a great movie, it's an art film but it's really one big orgy with one of the first scenes a guy is doing self-felacio and comes all over his face. I've never understood these gay non-gays.

Anyway, we're sticking to our guns with the nudity thing, and I know our customers appreciate it from the compliments we constantly get.

(sorry for verging off topic)

The Bondsman
10-17-2008, 11:13 PM
Lastly, there's a gay french blog called Gayclic.com that just floors me. I've never understood these gay non-gays.
It's this new "right-wing gay" movement that also gets me annoyed.
They want to be all so inclusive, rather than recognising and celebrating the VERY real differences between "gay" and "str8".
Now this may annoy some of those very same people, but I DON'T want to adopt/raise/father children and become a copy of a stereotypical straight family. I DON'T want to ape a heterosexual marriage in any way, ...and for me being "different" is the very best bit of the whole gay thing
Now I don't deny the rights of any gays who DO want to do any of the above, but I do not want to sink into non-visibility and get lost in the str8 community.
I WANT to see men's bodies, ..(and that's ALL of them, not pixilated images deemed too confronting for some hypothetical conservative. I want to acknowledge and revel in the fact that men DO have the most fascinating and exciting genitals, ...not some flattened and hidden away area that is something to be hidden and ashamed of. Or laughed at!
Gay can never be included under the str8 umbrella, ...we get lost and run-over. They constantly restrict us because we are "too confronting" to their self-importance.
Plainly now after a long trial period, integration does not work! Gays just get lost and become second class citizens, ....NO FOURTH class!.
BUT the very worst attitude of all is internalised homophobia, ...where gay people actually put restrictions and censorship on other gay people.
It starts with the whole "str8-acting" thing and progresses from there to timid little gay closeted conservative fake-str8s too full of self-loathing to ever loosen up from self-imposed straight-jackets to be really happy.
The sad thing is they are their own gaolers (jailers)!
CELEBRATE the diversity, ....not try to restrict everyone to the one mould.
We as gays should all have some self respect. We are NOT "damaged" str8s!

Here endeth the rant for the day......NOT sorry for deviating from topic, ...Anyway, we're sticking to our guns with the nudity thing, and I know our customers appreciate it from the compliments we constantly get.
(sorry for verging off topic)
Just as your fine selection of jockstraps support your customers right where they need it, you'll get massive support from me for taking this stand.
You have already won a great victory just by "sticking to your guns"!
We can only have "equality" if we take it, ...it's NEVER going to be given to us.

SweatyAussie
10-18-2008, 08:14 AM
They want to be all so inclusive, rather than recognising and celebrating the VERY real differences between "gay" and "str8".
I agree. WA Pride this year have this silly slogan "We're not that different".

My reaction was: "Ummm... actually, yes we are, that's the whole point."

Everyone I have spoken to on Gaydar agrees with me that it's a cringeing defeatist message they are projecting. Not that I am in favour of the "Up yours" type slogans either, I don't believe in behaving as though everyone is against us, but we need to state that we are different and we want acceptance.

Another thing. I used to think I was gay (in the sense of being homosexual). Not anymore apparently - seems that now I am GLBTIQ. That was last time I looked, don't know if any more letters have been added to the acronym in the last week.I agree that lesbians, transvestites and bisexuals need to have a voice too, but why not just say something like "alt-sex" (alternative sexuality) and be done with it?

SweatyAussie
10-18-2008, 08:25 AM
I'm sure it's not a brand you'll find at your local department store and even most online stores are probably too conservative to carry them, but we show nudity which most stores don't so having a jockstrap that almost says fuck is no big deal in my mind.

Fukker is really only one step beyond the UK French Connection clothing chain when they decided to become known as FCUK and have the logo in huge letters across their clothing.

Honestly, it's a bit gimmicky for me, but beyond the brand name, it's really a very comfortable basic cotton jockstrap.

As for the nudity thing on Jockstrap Central, we decided from the start that we weren't going to show gratuitous nudity, but we were going to show our products honestly and all on models. It was always one of my pet peeves when see-through underwear was always shown either pixelated, blurred or even worse, with solid fabric thong or jockstrap underneath, and even worser (grammatical error intentional) shown without a model flat on the floor.
..............................
Anyway, we're sticking to our guns with the nudity thing, and I know our customers appreciate it from the compliments we constantly get.

(sorry for verging off topic)
I didn't really expect there would be any problem with risque names or semi-nudity online, I was just thinking in terms of offline retail. The words "Dirty Fukker" would more or less restrict the sale to places like adult shops. I certainly have no problem with the name, though I agree it's a trifle gimmicky, it's not exactly subtle.

I prefer a name like Aussiebum, or Priape, which are just naughty enough to make one grin, but not so in-your-face that the only place you could wear them with the waistband visible would be the sex club or the underwear party.

And I agree, an underwear ad MUST show a model flat on the floor, it's pointless if you don't.

deusex
10-18-2008, 10:03 AM
I meant garment flat on the floor - must have been my subconscious thinking about our model Paulo.

What do you think about the Nasty Pig brand? It's along the same vein, just maybe not as in your face. I know we've given their underwear to a lot of our hetero friends for xmas gifts and they love it and don't seem to be bothered by the brand written across the waistband. Besides the bold name, it's really classy well made underwear.

The Bondsman
10-18-2008, 11:50 PM
I agree. WA Pride this year have this silly slogan "We're not that different".

My reaction was: "Ummm... actually, yes we are, that's the whole point."
That slogan is EXACTLY the apologetic cringing I take great objection to!Another thing. I used to think I was gay (in the sense of being homosexual). Not anymore apparently - seems that now I am GLBTIQ. That was last time I looked, don't know if any more letters have been added to the acronym in the last week.
It's the same damn thing over here with the Sydney Mardi Gras!
Once, we were all "gay", ...and that was it. It was the "GAY Mardi Gras"!
Sadly, that didn't last long, ....we had to go all "inclusive" and try to be all things to all groups.
Now we have gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, "intersex", (even I had to look that one up!), ...and queer? I'm guessing that's the "Q".
And of course that doesn't include the bizarre classification of "men who have sex with men but don't identify as gay"???? :confused: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Reality check guys, ....you're poofters! :eek: True! :blowme
Now there are even floats in Mardi Gras from the female prostitutes collective!
What the hell they are doing in what's SUPPOSED to be a gay Mardi Gras is beyond my comprehension.
I have completely changed my mind on this whole PC inclusive stupidity, ...now I say "Get your bloody own show!".
Too many gay guys fought for too long and very hard for what freedoms we now enjoy to have it all blurred away by some post-modernist air-heads with thoughts of some utopian love-in where there is no difference between the sexualities.
Lesbians are currently on a self-driven divergent course that sees the gap between them and gay men grow ever wider, to the point where we now have only a love of our same sex in common, ......and that actually divides us!
I now truly believe that transgender people are NOT gay, ....and that's after speaking to many of them who agree with me.
The state of intersex is an unfortunate congenital birth defect, ......but does NOT necessarily mean the person is "gay" any more than those of normal genitalia.
What the hell is going on here? Why are the new gay movements so hell-bent (an apt expression) on pretending a gay relationship is "just like a hetero one .... really it is"?
It's nothing of the bloody sort, .....thank you very much!
I have seen so much "warm-&-fuzzy" material put out of late that tries SO hard to minimise the difference between us and them, that you could be forgiven for believing that all gays really want is to be allowed to quietly settle down in suburbia, to ape the nuclear heterosexual family.
Now I don't know about the rest of you gay blokes but I just didn't get that gene, .....and here's the surprise for those would-be social engineers; ...I DON'T WANT IT!

SweatyAussie
10-19-2008, 03:56 AM
I meant garment flat on the floor - must have been my subconscious thinking about our model Paulo.

What do you think about the Nasty Pig brand? It's along the same vein, just maybe not as in your face. I know we've given their underwear to a lot of our hetero friends for xmas gifts and they love it and don't seem to be bothered by the brand written across the waistband. Besides the bold name, it's really classy well made underwear.
I'm not that keen on the Nasty Pig name either, and I know there was at least one other member who said he liked the look and description of the stuff but wished it didn't carry that name.

On the other hand I know a lot of gays are comfortable with the nickname "Pig", so I guess it's the manufacturers' call, do they gain more customers than they lose by having that name.

I certainly wouldn't say I find it offensive, to each their own.

To be honest, the "Dirty" part puts me off more than the "Fukker" part.

(Veering slightly off-topic...) I belong to a couple of jeans sites because I love wearing, and seeing other guys wearing, tight jeans. It annoys me though that many of the guys assume that if you are a jeans fetishist you also enjoy:

- wearing jeans even in 40 deg heat
- getting wet in the jeans - swimming in them even
- pissing the jeans
- getting the jeans muddy
- never washing them, so they get to stink of stale sweat and cum
- tearing holes in the arse so you can be fucked while wearing them

Some of the guys on those sites seem to think that I am a bit of a pansy just because I don't like any of those things, I just like the look and feel of tight jeans. This might be where my aversion to "Dirty" and "Pig" comes from.

deusex
10-19-2008, 08:08 AM
I can appreciate and respect the fact that Nasty Pig and Dirty Fukker isn't to everyone's taste, but that's why we carry a selection. But to Nasty Pig's defense, they started off as strictly a fetish company making rubber fetish products in New York in Chelsea and the Nasty Pig brand in that context makes perfect sense. They been in business for over 14 years now and have built a company around the concept of (what some people would call) extreme fetish wear. As they expanded, they grew their product line and customer base, and although that base has grown, there's still a common denominator, and that is they're not coming to Nasty Pig for vanilla white briefs, thongs, or g-strings. So when they decided to do some basic underwear, the least they could do to keep to their image is to take advantage of their suggestive name and place it over the waistband.

I actually had a talk with David Lauderstein (the owner) a few months ago to compliment him on the success of the underwear line and asked him if he had planned to expand it and he told me that despite the huge success of the line, he wasn't sure he would as he was afraid it was diverging to far from Nasty Pig's core market.

As for the Dirty Fukker brand, they don't have a history like that, In my opinion, they chose the name simply for the shock value. Well, I'm not easily shocked and for someone who ran one of the most successful gay porn sites for 10 years, I guess I'm actually desensitized to it all. I think it's funny, as are the ads we've been putting out there to advertise it on our site with our models giving the viewers the finger. My motto is one that's been heard before many times, if you don't like something, don't look.

SweatyAussie
10-19-2008, 03:08 PM
If DF catches on, maybe they will branch out into the women's underwear market. Expect to see ladies in panties emblazoned with the slogan "Fuckin Cunt" gracing the pages of Women's Day and Cosmopolitan.

The Bondsman
10-19-2008, 06:40 PM
I think it's funny, as are the ads we've been putting out there to advertise it on our site with our models giving the viewers the finger.
Remember this board's jockstrap competition? My entry had me giving the viewers "the finger" and apparently no one noticed, or didn't care....
My motto is if you don't like something, don't look.
Which probably TOTALLY explains the above, .......sigh!